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PMDG B737-700 Released

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2 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I am slightly worried about the comments regarding VRAM messages. I do not have much to spare on my RTX 4070 Super.

Well, be worried, it's not well optimized. I have a 4070 and never had vram warning popup with the -800, with this ac I get it every flight. And this is with all my 3rd party airports with .KTX2 textures reduced to 2048 pixels.

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  • ryanbatc
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    I barely flew the 2020 version so to me this 2024 version looks really nice! I like my cockpits looking new especially since I'm flying the BBJ variety  

  • UrgentSiesta
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    Hallelujah! A new video short just dropped: Looks like mostly cuts from the longer video released a couple days ago.

  • So.... I've had my first check out of the new -700.  She's a beauty for sure.  I paid £23 upgrade price, as I owned the -700 for 2020.   For that price, I'm happy with it.  The new textures are nice b

I'm curious if we, 2k users, should start worrying about VRAM. 

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Not sure if this will be helpful, but checking the 737-800 versus 737-700 cargo versions with same airport and same view, both use similar GPU memory, If anything the 737-800 is using slightly less (about 1 gig). In my case typical is around 20 gig.

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2 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:

I'm curious if we, 2k users, should start worrying about VRAM. 

I'm running 3440 x 1440 monitor and wasn't worried until I installed the 700.

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So can someone explain to me why the -700 is more than double the price of the -600?
I guess I'm asking if there's really something more I'm receiving to explain the extra cost, or is it mostly based on popularity of the variant?

I haven't purchased a PMDG aircraft in maybe 10 years or more... am considering it again now.

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1 minute ago, hangar said:

So can someone explain to me why the -700 is more than double the price of the -600?

The -600 just has one airframe. The -700 has passenger, cargo, BBJ. Along with blended and split scimitar winglets.

This is also why the -900 sits in the middle of the pricing.

 

4 minutes ago, BrammyH said:

The -600 just has one airframe. The -700 has passenger, cargo, BBJ. Along with blended and split scimitar winglets.

This is also why the -900 sits in the middle of the pricing.

 

oh, ok I understand... too bad they don't allow you to purchase just the single model of choice that you'd want (like just the BBJ or just the cargo variant, etc).

Thanks for the info.

2 hours ago, BenzAmg said:

I mean is the same as prior version,visually is completely exact the same inside the cockpit.

The cabin and exterior are improved,totally a waste of money IMHO.

I don't think the new textures are in this version.  I think the textures upgrade for all variants comes later.

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29 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

I don't think the new textures are in this version.  I think the textures upgrade for all variants comes later.

I think it is in the -700 as this is what was mentioned in a post by Robert:

 

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HIGH DETAIL UPDATES: 737-700 was the development testbed for the new model, and thus it is the first to release with the High Detail Update fully in place. As of 09APR26/2000Z the 737-600/800 and 900 HDU enabled builds are still in testing.

 

Vote to fix transparent  sun visors having no effect on the sun glare effect in MSFS at: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sun-shades-sun-visors-not-influencing-light-in-cockpit/691565/

1 hour ago, G-YMML1 said:

I'm curious if we, 2k users, should start worrying about VRAM. 

I've had several flights where I bumped against VRAM saturation with my 12GB RTX 3080 running 1440P. Considering a new system with RTX 5080 but thinking I might never be satisfied until I jump to the 5090 - the problem is new systems with a 5090 are running $6000 and up.

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Testflight was good. No troubles here with RTX3080Ti.
Well done, PMDG! it is a good 737-700. 

1 hour ago, Zangoose said:

I think it is in the -700 as this is what was mentioned in a post by Robert:

 

 

Oh interesting.  The front support columns are still pretty low res.  They might do that to save resources though.  The panel itself is very nice.

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1 hour ago, somiller said:

I've had several flights where I bumped against VRAM saturation with my 12GB RTX 3080 running 1440P. Considering a new system with RTX 5080 but thinking I might never be satisfied until I jump to the 5090 - the problem is new systems with a 5090 are running $6000 and up.

Don't waste your money on a 5080.  16GB is not going to make a difference.  Go 5090 or find an older 4090.  I have a 4080 and get the resources message often (1440p).  But I recommend MSFS Auto FPS as that can help keep vram lower during intensive times like landing and takeoff - when I use that it does help negate the vram consumption.

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The price of Nvidia graphics cards beggars belief. I just checked out the RTX 4080 on the CEX website (so, not even brand new), and the cost is between £800 and £975. Then I decided to have a look at the RTX 4090......

Not much change from £2000.....for any of them on the site :blink:

I need to sit down....

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Christopher Low

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UK2000 Beta Tester

Just completed a successful flight on my routine 'test' route, EBOS Ostend to EGKK London Gatwick in VR.

No surprises - everything worked as expected and I made a successful ILS landing at runway 26L.

In general, I would say that I noticed no PC performance issues at all other than, maybe, a little mouse lag when I was programming the MCDU - but I've noticed that on a number of aircraft so I think that is more likely to be my end and not PMDG's.

I would say that, while perfectly happy with the discounted purchase (I had the 700 in MSFS2020), I wouldn't have actually known that this was a different model, either in textures or performance, if someone had booted it up for me and handed me the headset and controls.

But overall, happy chappy.

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