Didn't know they were phasing them out. Thanks for that. I see the 900er's and the a321 both hold about 185 PAX which is about what the 757 did, so it makes sense.

 

Of course the 767 is about the same vintage so I assume its days are numbered as well--in favor of the 787?

 

Dan Cole

Amazing that airlines see the A321 as an alternative for the 757. the A321 is nowhere near the aircraft the 757 is.

True. But except for a few routes (thin transatlantic for instance), the A321 can fulfill the role the 757 plays in most airlines today, quite well. The ludicrous performance the757 has isn't needed anymore, sadly. That's why there hasn't been a one on one replacement for the 757, it's not needed, and it definitely isn't economical.

The airline I work for operates both the 757 and the A321. In the configuration that we fly, the A321 can't even do transcontinental flights in the US non stop. We fly from Phoenix to the Hawaiian Islands using old 757's because the A321's don't have the range.

Well, of course, that's exactly the kind of route I'm talking about. However, the majority of the routes currently flown by the 757 can be taken over by the A321, with some exceptions here and there. The A321NEO and the B737-9 MAX will be able to replace the 757 on virtually any route currently in use. Except, again, for a few exceptions.

The A321 isn't THE 757 replacement, but it does come quite close.

Seems to me that Level-D have most certainly, left it too long now. :-(

What baffles me is the lack of even exterior shots. Not even one. You'd think by now the exterior would be finished, right?

 

Oh no....

since PMDG will not compete with LDS, and LDS cannot get a product finished, I sure hope LDS does not announce any future products, ie 787 :p0307:

What baffles me is the lack of even exterior shots. Not even one. You'd think by now the exterior would be finished, right?

 

Oh no....

Good point. I see no harm in showing something like that.

 

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The airline I work for operates both the 757 and the A321. In the configuration that we fly, the A321 can't even do transcontinental flights in the US non stop. We fly from Phoenix to the Hawaiian Islands using old 757's because the A321's don't have the range.

I live near KPHL, and see heavily loaded US Airways (now to be American) A321s pass over my house on their way to the west coast.   That's a nonstop flight, and a very popular route as well.   During the few times I spot at KPHL, I notice they use almost all the runway on takeoff, and they are slow to climb.  So much so, whenever I see a low flying A321 on takeoff I can guess correctly they are on their way to either KSFO or KLAX! 

 

I still remember my one flight on a 757, back in March 2010 on a LCC "Star Alliance" liveried 757 from Montego Bay Jamaica to KPHL.   What a rocket ship!   I had high hopes to mimic that flight in the LVD 757, but who knows what will come of this project.  

I live near KPHL, and see heavily loaded US Airways (now to be American) A321s pass over my house on their way to the west coast.   That's a nonstop flight, and a very popular route as well.   During the few times I spot at KPHL, I notice they use almost all the runway on takeoff, and they are slow to climb.  So much so, whenever I see a low flying A321 on takeoff I can guess correctly they are on their way to either KSFO or KLAX! 

 

I still remember my one flight on a 757, back in March 2010 on a LCC "Star Alliance" liveried 757 from Montego Bay Jamaica to KPHL.   What a rocket ship!   I had high hopes to mimic that flight in the LVD 757, but who knows what will come of this project.  

 

Agreed. I flew on a 757-300 back in 05 IAH-LAS.

 

I've always liked the 757 and this was my only time to fly on one... But holy mother of thrust.

Why the obsession with currently flying airliners, the PMDG 777 was a masterpiece, no doubt about it, but soooo boring, not PMDG's fault, it's the aircraft, modern, computerised very limited pilot interaction.

 

I would still buy a LD 757, i don't mind if it isn't used anywhere in the world at all...i still hold out hope for a PMDG IL62 or VC 10.

Why the obsession with currently flying airliners, the PMDG 777 was a masterpiece, no doubt about it, but soooo boring, not PMDG's fault, it's the aircraft, modern, computerised very limited pilot interaction.

 

I would still buy a LD 757, i don't mind if it isn't used anywhere in the world at all...i still hold out hope for a PMDG IL62 or VC 10.

I will concede that point about it being boring.  I love the addon to death, but yeah, things just seem too easy, from preflight to shutdown, sooo much automation.  I've flown all the PMDG birds, the LevelD 767, Wilco ERJ-145, and props like the Flight 1 ATR and Majestic Q300.  So I have plenty of experience with a variety of systems, and always had a sense of pride and satisfaction in mastering their complex setups.   But I don't get quite that same level of accomplishment with the 777.  Obviously, because of the automation, but it also may be that the systems, FMC, are pretty much shared with all the other modern Boeings, that everything is a cakewalk for me.  Not so when I was "training" on the PMDG MD-11, it was quite refreshing to try something new. 

That was my point. AA and United fly the 757 to and from many us east coast hubs.

 

If the A321 can't replace that function, how are they going to phase them out? The MAX?

 

Dan Cole

The MAX still won't do what a 757 can do.  The NEO and MAX will replace many current 757 domestic routes where the demand isn't quite as high but with increased frequency.  However, it can't on the high demand routes since the MAX can't take as much payload on a per route basis.  However, the only new replacement for a 757 over the water is the 787-8 and there aren't enough delivery slots for enough 787s to replace the 757s on those routes for at least the next 8-10 years.  757s will be around for many, many years to come.  American and US Airways just started a new retrofit program for all of their 757s, in fact.