July 27, 201114 yr Regarding FS9, the fact is that it simply can not handle what the FSX version of the PMDG 737 is capable of. The MS Flight question is entirely speculation at this point. And in my case, I don't even own FS9, so I can only directly compare the iFly FSX version vs. the PMDG FSX version once they are both in my possession. Shane Gavin
July 27, 201114 yr Ok, so I'll be spending about $15 more for the PMDG version... That would be the cost of my dinner at Olive Garden. I don't care about the other variants as I'll fly the -800 with an N number on vatsim anyway.I't just something you budget for... and I don't go out to eat that often, but OG is one of my favorite places.... and the endless salad bowl/bread sticks....Jim Jim Wenham
July 27, 201114 yr ... and the endless salad bowl/bread sticks....JimYep... :( - PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D // Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO // 2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 // ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600 // Corsair 1600W PSU Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor. - Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7.
July 27, 201114 yr It's amazing just a few weeks ago iFly was the most awesome add-on out there. Now that the PMDG version is close we get comments like this... :(I personally never stated that the iFly was the best add-on out there. In fact, I still prefer the Leondardo MD, PMDG MD-11, and PMDG 747 over the iFly for systems depth and accuracy. Shane Gavin
July 28, 201114 yr Moderator Flight is around the corner and this is a pretty new add-on. There's no reason not to think PMDG won't do everything they can to make sure this add-on works in the new environment if it's possible. The price of admission to FSX is too steep from my current system that I have today (which runs great under W7 64Bit). FSX is a 32Bit program designed for no particular OS which for many has brought allot of problems. Flight will be designed for Windows 7/8 with 64Bit/Multi Core machines in mind. It should run great on machines of the day during release time and be native to 64bit (seeing most new machines sold today come bundled with 64bit because of the large memory size shipping with computers today). For those of you running FSX well my hats off to you, I would rather wait on a FS platform built from the ground up for Windows 7/8 64Bit Duo/Multi Core machines using 12+gigs of RAM.Les, after seeing your posts over the last few years you should just stick to FS9 forever. There will never be a computer or sim fast enough to please you the way FS9 does.And if your going to wait for PMDG to port the NGX to flight, you could well indeed be waiting a long time, if they even do it. Suppose they build a new version for Flight, you will be waiting even longer.You've been waiting forever for computers to get fast enough for FSX, those are here now. Now your going to wait for Flight and the NGX for it? At some point your going to just have to bit the bullet and jump in, otherwise your going to have to keep waiting forever for the next sim, version, or computer.I doubt Flight will be built specifically for 64 bit OS like your hoping. You might as well wait for the next version of Flight and stick to FS9 for the next 10 years. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 28, 201114 yr I imagine many threads in dungeons and dragons forum read just like this one. Who's the elite dungeon master and who's goblin is the coolest and such. Flight sim is to some a role playing game, but man, some take it too seriously. Relax, y'all. R9-9950X3D 32G | RTX5090 | 3T m.2 | Win11 | vkb-gf ultimate & pedals | virpil cm3 throttle | tm boeing yoke | pimax super uw | DCS
July 28, 201114 yr ... and the endless salad bowl/bread sticks.... Jim I always end up eating about 6 breadsticks and 4 bowls of salad before the main entree arrives. LOL Ark -------------------------- I9 9900K @ 5ghz / 32GB G.Skill (Samsung B) / Aorus Master Mobo / EVGA GTX 2080Ti FTW 3
July 28, 201114 yr I doubt Flight will be built specifically for 64 bit OS like your hoping. You might as well wait for the next version of Flight and stick to FS9 for the next 10 years. I'm sure 'Flight' will have the ability to run on a 32Bit OS but I'm having trouble understanding how you can leverage this point looking at what FSX needs to run... It's silly to even consider running a new simulator built for today's technology on an OS that's only going to give you 3gigs of Ram overhead versus an OS that'll use 192gigs if hardware permits. You can't talk about me and FS9 if your looking to run Flight on a 32Bit OS. B) Even age old FS9 benefits greatly on Windows 7 versus how it performed in XP (I wonder how I did it), I should have switched along time ago but drivers weren't readily available for 64Bit OS's. All that's come of age, I have no trouble acknowledging 64Bit is the future. 32Bit OS's have reached a ceiling that's evident even with a sim like FS9. FS9 with add-ons at a minimum should be ran with no less than 4gigs of ram. One can't fly into New York City with all options turned up in FS9 and not expect an OOM error in a 32Bit OS environment. OOM errors were a big problem in FS9 with AI turned up using packages like WOAI and detail third party scenery (not to mention updated default textures). A 32Bit OS couldn't handle the memory load required, again we're talking FS9 not FSX... I just checked Dell's website and Windows 7 64Bit Home Premium is the standard for all new machines their shipping on today's market with no less than 4gigs of RAM. People getting the most out of FSX these days have well over 4gigs of Ram in their systems. How is it FSX (FS9.75 for that matter) needs more than 4gigs of RAM to run efficiently yet 'Flight' should be expected to run on less? Furthermore new mid-range machines at the time of Flight's release will be shipping with more than 4gigs if we go by what we're seeing today. Now I'll give you Microsoft always puts unrealistic system specs on their software all we have to do is look at FSX or FS9 to prove that. To think Flight will be a native 32Bit application is pretty hilarious to say the least looking at the type of computers that's shipping today and the OS that their bundled with. As far as all the other things you're saying about me and FS9 you might be right. :( I passed on FSX because XP wasn't what is was designed for then it had to be seeing Microsoft was late with Vista, It was built without multiple cores in mind needing a patch to correct that, Vista came out then some clamored to get it to work in that environment, then came the memory issue where people found the more ram you could throw at FSX the better it ran, now with an i7 machine a 64Bit OS supporting more Ram people are getting a pretty good experience with it. If I followed the FSX path that would have been allot of hardware/OS chasing over the past few years since FSX was released... :( PMDG or any other developer wasn't worth the headache for me. Have fun everyone with the new NGX... :( FS2020 Alienware Aurora R11 10th Gen Intel Core i7 10700F - Windows 11 Home 32GB Ram NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB - Pimax Crystal Light VR
July 28, 201114 yr Have fun everyone with the new NGX... :( Oh YES(!!!) we absolutely WILL! Best regards, Fritz ESSONO
July 28, 201114 yr I'm craving OG right now! | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
July 28, 201114 yr Sorry for this off topic question, but how does the AOA video achieves this steady motion througout the flightdeck an into every corner? Is this Track IR? Is this another piece of software I am not aware off? JosEBBR
July 28, 201114 yr Track IR and EZDOKhttp://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=ezdockcam | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
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