December 22, 201411 yr I am astonished on how many people are confused about FSX and steam. FSX SE is still the same simulator. Nothing will be arcade like etc. Third party developer's need to update their installers. I have a lot of old games on steam which were on DVD's before. They are running fine and many with community mods. Cpt Guido
December 22, 201411 yr I was curious so i bought it, in reality its less than a tip at a restaurant for dinner. I have fs9/fsx/and now steam all running on my system. Steam took me awhile just to figure out where Simobjects was located, i tried to add a plane from fsx but to no avail. I guess there will be a learning curve on what steam can run, or let you add. I have a 64 bit system so i will be looking forward to that system
December 22, 201411 yr It is strange, that many here says it is only 5$. And what about all those hours of your time spent trying to reinstall everything and having to deal with some incompabilities with your addons? You are chosing to buy software from a company, that will not develop it any further, and doesn't have policy to keep it compatible with any 3d party addon. And even if, for some reason, Dovetail would keep improving FSX:SE, then... well... how much further Prepar3D is already? 3 years? Don't you think they wil encounter the same problems that Prepar3D had to deal with? Why waste your time for this, if you can download P3D for 60 days trial and try it yourself. Nowadays, most of addons are P3D compatible, and the rest will be compatible soon. Just my few cents. Lukasz Lukasz Kulasek i7-8700k, RTX 2080 TI, 32 GB RAM, ASUS TUF Z370-PRO Gaming, Oculus Rift CV1
December 22, 201411 yr When I try going to the www.prepar3d.com site I can't connect; maybe LM has given up on Prepar3D. Mike Mann
December 22, 201411 yr Some of you 'hurrumphy' blokes are hilarious. You've got someone like Pete Dowson in this thread saying he's been in to source code, as part of his FSUIPC work, and that he believes FSX:SE is faster. And yet you're still compelled to tell those people that have bought FSXSE for £3.99 / $5 that they're wrong, and in one case pretty immoral as the money should have been spent on a donation. :rolleyes: - have you any idea how arrogant that sounds? It's $5 ........ if you decide to pass that up, where you have someone who knows more about FSX's "insides" than pretty much anyone else in this community saying it is faster, then do it........... but please, don't tell those of us who've spent a coffee's worth of cash on it, that we're the fools here. :wink: David Bourne
December 22, 201411 yr Hey Fellers, I have been away from fsx & P3D for maybe a year. Since it is the holidays and I get to stay home for a few weeks I was thinking of reinstalling - I have both fsx & P3D. Curious: So is the Steam version have Acceleration built in? I do not fly Acceleration AC but did not know if the "update" helps. Noob I kinda want to stick to FSX since my fav area to fly is Alaska - I bought all of the paper charts, Orbx areas and such. Orbx has not updated PAKT or PAJN (wonder if they ever will) to work with P3D v2 yet so it might be outta the picture for a while. Oh the scare of setting everything back up has kept me away. Tweaking sucks! But my pit will be happy to come out of the corner. Rob"Life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it"
December 22, 201411 yr I agree with the last post How can £3.99 be a waste if only to ensure you have a back up if your old DVD stops working. I have installed it but I am waiting for Pete Dowson to make fsuipc work, before trying to install addons. This is mainly because of the windows 8 joystick problem. I know Pete has said he doesn't know why fsuipc is different but if not 100% I find that it does work a lot better than without. Can't agree about Pete's comment about the price of a beer though, as I also live somewhere near the place that he says he lives somewhere near to and generally only pay around half that for a pint.
December 22, 201411 yr Some of you 'hurrumphy' blokes are hilarious. You've got someone like Pete Dowson in this thread saying he's been in to source code, as part of his FSUIPC work, and that he believes FSX:SE is faster. And yet you're still compelled to tell those people that have bought FSXSE for £3.99 / $5 that they're wrong, and in one case pretty immoral as the money should have been spent on a donation. :rolleyes: - have you any idea how arrogant that sounds? It's $5 ........ if you decide to pass that up, where you have someone who knows more about FSX's "insides" than pretty much anyone else in this community saying it is faster, then do it........... but please, don't tell those of us who've spent a coffee's worth of cash on it, that we're the fools here. :wink: Well said +1. I bought FSX SE but will use it with my next Windows 10 install. Then goodbye FSX DVD. Cpt Guido
December 22, 201411 yr You are chosing to buy software from a company, that will not develop it any further, and doesn't have policy to keep it compatible with any 3d party addon. Dovetail have already developed it, the changelog and Peter Dowsons observations are proof of that for me. And who knows what Dovetail may do if the community responds positivly to FSX-SE. We know from screenshots of some FSX beta builds that cloud shadows were originally in there because the tick box for cloud shadows was shown on one of them but taken out of the RTM release. What Dovetail has released is FSX plus the further coding that was done by ACES after SP2 and Acceleration was released. £3.99 for FSX SP3 is a bargain.
December 22, 201411 yr Moderator I have installed it but I am waiting for Pete Dowson to make fsuipc work, before trying to install addons. This is mainly because of the windows 8 joystick problem. Pete released a new version of FSUIPC yesterday... ...see the sticky post at the top of this forum for the link! :Applause: Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
December 22, 201411 yr Commercial Member I've had enough "fun" tweaking FSX over the years and installing new hardware. I've finally gotten FSX to a point where I'm flying and enjoying it more than the time I spend tweaking it. Combined with even more improvements recently with DX10, which is pretty much FSX SP3 to me, I'm reluctant to change anything at this point. I certainly don't need a near-identical FSX install to take up even more hard drive space as I tinker some more and wait and see while it "matures" (then reinstalling addon after addon all over again). And, yes, I was an FSX hold out up until maybe 2 years ago. 90% of my flying was FS9. Now that ratio is still about 50-50. FS9 worked perfectly for me, ran better than FSX, and I had plenty of scenery and aircraft I enjoyed which never ported over well to FSX. I think it'd take P3D 64-bit and even then add a few months of development and dust-settling for me to consider changing (or simply installing yet another sim). Flipping the 64-bit switch will impact a great number of addons, so I expect to be a late comer as it pans out. Kyle Weber (Private Pilot, ASEL; Flight Test Engineer)Check out my repaints and downloads, all right here on AVSIM
December 22, 201411 yr Moderator You've got someone like Pete Dowson in this thread saying he's been in to source code, as part of his FSUIPC work, and that he believes FSX:SE is faster. And yet you're still compelled to tell those people that have bought FSXSE for £3.99 / $5 that they're wrong, and in one case pretty immoral as the money should have been spent on a donation. :rolleyes: - have you any idea how arrogant that sounds? Point me to my comments where I have said people are wrong to buy it. You won't find any. You use quite inflammatory words simply because you disagree with the opinion of those who have chosen not to buy it. You might want to think about who is being arrogant. AvSim doesn't run on love. It needs cash and from the reports I've read very few here have made a donation. If people are prepared to spend $5 on a cup of coffee what's wrong with donating the same amount to AvSim? It's $5 ........ if you decide to pass that up, where you have someone who knows more about FSX's "insides" than pretty much anyone else in this community saying it is faster, then do it........... but please, don't tell those of us who've spent a coffee's worth of cash on it, that we're the fools here. Again, point me to where I said people are fools. You won't find it. I gave a reasonable explanation why I'm unlikely to buy FSX:SE not least because I would need to buy another SSD sooner rather than later. FSLabs have also stated there are no immediate plans to make Concorde-X work with FSX:SE. So why would I buy it if one of two aircraft I fly won't work? And no-one has still addressed the elephant in the room. I've seen more complaints in the FSX forum about OOM problems caused by insufficient VAS. But nowhere in the list of improvements have I seen that fixed. So even though you might get higher fps and improved smoothness you will still run out of memory when flying a PMDG aircraft between 2 complex airports. Until that is fixed I'm not really interested. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
December 22, 201411 yr Commercial Member I agree with the last post How can £3.99 be a waste if only to ensure you have a back up if your old DVD stops working. I have installed it but I am waiting for Pete Dowson to make fsuipc work, before trying to install addons. This is mainly because of the windows 8 joystick problem. I know Pete has said he doesn't know why fsuipc is different but if not 100% I find that it does work a lot better than without. Can't agree about Pete's comment about the price of a beer though, as I also live somewhere near the place that he says he lives somewhere near to and generally only pay around half that for a pint. FSUIPC 4.938a, released yesterday, works fine with FSX-SE. Wetherspoon's prices for beer at £2.05-£2.25 are a lot less than the general full price, agreed. But £3.99 or even more is a normal sort of of price per pint in London, and other than in Wetherspoon's, prices round here are over £3 -- in pubs, I mean, not supermarkets! Maybe you only drink beer at home? Regards Pete Win10: 22H2 19045.2728 CPU: 9900KS at 5.5GHz Memory: 32Gb at 3800 MHz. GPU: RTX 24Gb Titan 2 x 2160p projectors at 25Hz onto 200 FOV curved screen
December 22, 201411 yr Do you want simulated flight or would you rather tinker with new installations that will, in the short term, deliver the same experience, give or take a few addons? And I realize that for many here, tinkering does seem to be the point of all of this. If your current FSX installation is delivering what you want, then stick with it until something that's actually and demonstrably better arrives. But that's just what I think... Couldn`t agree more. I have FSX in DX10 with the fixer and I don`t even think to change to P3D. Running so smoothly and with all my addon working as it should.
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