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Prepar3D setup guide from Nick N

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Wow, what a wake up call.  Reading through the thread(s) now makes me feel like a jacka$$ for listening to a lot of other people.  I don't think my cfg is that tweaked out, but at least I know now not to move forward with any other tweaks, adjustments or otherwise.  I'll definitely have to look over my NVI to see what I have changed there.  Good thing is that all is not lost and resetting defaults and creating a new config cleans the canvas off to start over. :)

 

Thanks Vernon for the link.

 

-Jim

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Trust me! People are running around crazy on this site with tweaks and tests! WHY ??? Follow the guru do his guide and GO FLY AND STOP TWEAKING.

 

I hope this will change peoples minds.

 

I'm a happy bunny with P3D now since not using NVI and following his guide.

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I must be getting old.  I remember when tweaking meant someone who was high on illicit drugs! lol

 

I cannot agree more with you Vernon.  When you get enough people in heated debates within threads that last over 20 pages, you start to doubt yourself and the methods you used to get to where you are.  John V  over at the ORBX forum once said that the key to a smooth and stable simulator was the right hardware...there's a lot of truth to that.  Something that Nick said in one of his posts made me laugh, but also got me thinking about something I have noticed is starting to get popular:  Modeled interior Airports.  What really is the point in seeing where the bathrooms are in an airport in a sim?  Sure, it's great eye candy but I feel like the developers are purposely trying to bring people's rigs to a grinding halt, or they are in league with hardware manufacturer's to make an extra buck because some uninformed customer is complaining that his/her top of the line rig can't handle an airport so they need to forego food and rent for a month to go out and buy a new graphics card or cpu.  Sorry, that borders on ridiculous.

 

I am on that bandwagon of making sure you have a smooth and stable FLIGHT first and the rest comes later, if at all.  Sure, I want a little more realism in my flight, but not at the cost of my rig blowing me a raspberry as it reboots either.

 

-Jim

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Wow, what a wake up call.  Reading through the thread(s) now makes me feel like a jacka$$ for listening to a lot of other people. 

 

So instead let's listen to one more people.  Why? because assertion = absolute truth I suppose, with statements like this:

 

"stop the tweaking NONSENSE right now. You need a clean default Prepar3D install with a clean config and ONLY APPLY the items I posted above in that config, NOTHING ELSE"

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So instead we shall listen to one more people.  Why? because assertion = absolute truth I suppose, with statements like this:

 

"stop the tweaking NONSENSE right now. You need a clean default Prepar3D install with a clean config and ONLY APPLY the items I posted above in that config, NOTHING ELSE"

So what's the problem with that statement or even what I said?  Yeah, I meant every word that it is a wake up call.  He's someone that's been in the flight sim community for many years and has a lot of knowledge when it comes to setting up sims.  I don't take his word as God, but I do trust that he wouldn't steer anyone wrong, just like my mention of John V at ORBX.  Hardware is key and no "snake oil" software or magical tweak is going to make things better.  Everything is what it is.

 

-Jim

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This is excellent news and a great read. So I don't need to be scared of config tweaks anymore!? Awesome!

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Yep you've got it.

 

Honestly guys get OFF THE FLIGHT SIM HAMSTER WHEEL hahaha

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Yep you've got it.

 

Honestly guys get OFF THE FLIGHT SIM HAMSTER WHEEL hahaha

 

Nah, I like the wheel. You guys move along while I 'non-sensibly' tweak and see what I see. For better or worse, I have lots of fun trying different settings. Also...I don't care one bit what critics say or think.

Like the saying goes  "Hi, I don't care, thanks." :smile:

cheers,

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I think it's funny people say every system is totally different in regards to performance, even exact systems can run FSX/P3D slightly different, yet on the other hand say No tweaks are needed at all (On Their System!)

 

One system may benefit from a tweak and the next exact system may not.

 

So I agree, there’s no harm if a tweak is there to try it, worst case you just delete the cfg and let it rebuild itself.

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I use NVI for FSX - I did use it for P3D 2.5.  So how do I clear the old NVI for P3D? or delete it or whatever.  Still want the FSX one . .

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I use NVI for FSX - I did use it for P3D 2.5.  So how do I clear the old NVI for P3D? or delete it or whatever.  Still want the FSX one . .

Go into NVI and locate the Prepar3D Profile - delete it leave the FSX profile alone.

 

Vic

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Great stuff Vernon.    Love the Big pic Tutorials 

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I didn't like his starting settings - they seem FSX based and P3D is just not the same .

 

The point of P3D is to run the eye candy , cockpit shadows, flowing water etc etc. the terrain and autogen shadows are nice but I have to disable them in my "measly" 4ghz 2500k.

 

So I tried his and changed a lot, then saved that.

 

Also what's the point of starting with an uber vanilla install , setting it all up, then adding all the stuff you really use? I mean lol - of course your performance will change. Add your addons then adjust things. Thankfully we can save configs per areas we fly in. I already have a low (Orbx) medium (normal rural flying) and high (uber eye candy) config .

 

I think the guy has contributed a lot over the years so....great! But P3D is still really new - and it's going to take some time to really learn how it works.

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@Driver170

 

With Prepar3D v3 screen tearing appeared ( ne er had with v2 or FSX ) on my 3 monitor outside view setup.

 

I had 2 ways that worked to eliminate it :

- monitor frequency set to 25 or 30 + VSync On + Triple Buffering On + Franerate set to 25 or 30

Or

- enable Aero... and I could leave VSync Off.

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Hi gerard. My monitor is 60hz and my setup as you is this -

 

 

If you use Nvidia Inspector in the past for Prepar3D, please open it, select the Prepar3D profile and then click the green Nvidia icon in the top of the box, click APPLY. This clears the profile and assures NVI wont interfere with P3D using old settings.

 

 

Launch the Nvidia driver control and select the Manage 3D Settings> Click the tab Program Settings and then bring up the Prepar3D profile. Scroll down to:

 

Power Management Mode and select PREFER MAXIMUM POWER

 

Set Vertical Sync to: ADAPTIVE (half refresh rate)

 

click OK.

 

 

Close the driver control.

 

 

Then make sure VSync is ON in P3D and lock frames at either 30 or 60 one of the two. If you run unlimited frame lock you must disable Vsync in the P3D GUI

 

 

And still get tearing but only at the top screen though

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Hi gerard. My monitor is 60hz and my setup as you is this -

 

Set Vertical Sync to: ADAPTIVE (half refresh rate)

 

click OK.

 

 

I thought we all agreed that this setting does not work with P3D's pseudo "Full Screen" mode?

 

gb.

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Sorry never been a fan of Nicks tweaks.

 

The hide info line was great upto v3 and now you can set that in the general tab. So its not even needed now. 

 

v3 needs very little tweaking. FPS Locked or like Ive found unlimted works best, AM for HT ON, job done, thought most people on this forum know that. 

 

NVI, there was a big post about that, again unless you have a 980> dont use it. Its mainly clouds that kill FPS, all in that post.

 

Also what "looks" good on one monitor and looks bad on another I have two and colours/contrast/etc  are so different, both samsum but one is so much better, so when it comes to how something looks no one should go there as every screen is different, you can go into normal nvidia setting and play with colour contrast there if you wish. So when its come to looks HDR etc. Its pointless because everyones sim will look different depending of your Monitor before anything else. Ask yourself is your monitor calibrated right? even then its down to how good it is.

 

Glad its all working for you Vernon.

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Hi david its all running nicely! Could never go back to fsx lol

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Good to hear mate.

Happy days  :smile:

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I like the fact that Nick made his thoughts available for FSX. However, I did always feel that he was a bit too sure of the right way to do things - like install order - that didn't seem to make much difference.

 

I see P3D v3 as being a bit different. FSX needed tweaks because it was an unfinished sim. P3D v3 has a modern engine and is in active development, so if there's a performance gain to be made I'm confident that the devs will work it out before I do most of the time!

 

It's plausible that on certain systems a given tweak might help. I figure if you go with mainstream hardware - e.g. modern NVidia cards - then the sim is likely to be designed to match that sort of gear and tweaks are less likely to be necessary..

 

I don't run any clever tweaks at all at the present time. I use the brilliant SIMstarter program to set the sliders for all the different areas I fly in, to ensure that the sim is setup to maximise smoothness whilst giving me an acceptible level of eye candy.

 

The quote from JV referenced by a previous poster has also stuck in my mind. Buy the best hardware that you can to maximise your fly:tweak ratio :)

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I'm glad that Nick is doing a P3D specific version. When it comes to PC's, flightsim and setups  - he knows.

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I use the brilliant SIMstarter program to set the sliders for all the different areas I fly in, to ensure that the sim is setup to maximise smoothness whilst giving me an acceptible level of eye candy.

You dont even need that anymore, when you start the sim in scenario, bottom left you have your grafic setting, make them and save under the name you like. Start the sim chose the one you want, no rebooting or anything needed. Select and go. 

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