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Just read about it at BBC Website too. Flight from India.

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"Government of Dubai says no injuries, all passengers safe after Emirates jet fire at Dubai airport"

Quote from their twitter page.

 

That is all that matters right now.

 

Funny thing is I had just opened FlightRadar24 and noticed a lot of traffic over at the new airport, and holding patterns around DXB.

I opened Airlive.net and low and behold.

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Thank god, everyone survived. Everything else is not important right now.

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Cue the armchair experts... :smile:

 

'But I own the PMDG 777 and therefore I speak with authority....'

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Thank god. 

 

No.  Thank the crew.  

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No.  Thank the crew.  

Ok, that too. Still thank god that it wasn't worse and someone would've lost their life after that crash. 

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Emirates 777-300 A6-EMW operating Flight EK521 from Trivandrum, S.India, landed Rwy 12L at 12:41 and suffered landing gear collapse and burst into flames. Pax and crew evacuated safely. Aircraft burnt,total loss. Tweet from Dubai.

 

EDIT: Correction.Latest BBC pics show not a total burnt-out loss. But all departures and arrivals ceased.

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Ah.. Could explain (inaccurate I know) flightradar data showing 171 kts at 775 feet and last report at 125 kts at 5xx ft

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Condolences to the firefighter's family - it's a dangerous profession and I hope his life was not needlessly taken away whilst everyone got to safety.

 

We can all speculate as to why the crew elected to raise the undercarriage so soon in a go around. GE90s are spectacularly powerful but don't they take some time to spool up, so the big girl has to wait a little before a positive rate is achieved? Crews are trained in go around procedures etc. etc.... they should have known about the windshear blah, blah.

 

 

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Personally I've never had any issues in any of the POSKY 777 variants in my fleet... :P

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According to the BBC, they were making a standard approach into 12L when the ATC ordered them to do a GA. No windshear conditions are being reported.

 

As you so rightly say, Mark, R.I.P. the fireman and sympathies to his family.

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No.  Thank the crew.  

Thank ground rescue personnel and cabin crew. As to the cockpit crew - they may have culpability in what happened. But true, always could have been worse.

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Because a video shot from inside the plane has just been broadcast on BBC News showing the mainly Indian passengers stopping to collect their overhead luggage totally ignoring Emirates attendants please to head for the exits and the chutes. But then did the same not happen with that BA777 fire in Las Vegas?

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Bloody stupid passengers trying to get hand baggage from overhead lockers and jeopardising the safety of themselves and others.

 

Idiots getting their phones out and start filming when they should be hell-bent on getting off the aircraft. Manchester 1985 has obviously not registered with many.

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Sadly, Ray, memories have a very short lifespan. But then the behaviour of Indian passengers is nothing short of atrocious.

 

I was once on an Air France 777-200 flight from CDG to Mumbai, and the flight was  a bit late arriving into Mumbai, but to the French FA's utter astonishment and mine sat at very rearward seats, we watched Indian passengers standing up and then  opening the overhead lockers as soon as we touched down and were in reverse thrust rather than wait till that 772 had reached the jetway. And the cause of this insane behaviour? Because they feared missing onward connections. Never mind that they still had long snaking lines of immigration and customs to go through, then catch a taxi to get to the Domestic Terminal which was across the other side of the International Terminal.

 

That French FA must have lost her voice yelling amidst the commotion trying to get them to desist from standing up and opening the overheads.

 

So, this latest behaviour hardly comes as a surprise to me. Publicity and social media clamour for fame has a lot to answer for.

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GE90s are spectacularly powerful but don't they take some time to spool up, so the big girl has to wait a little before a positive rate is achieved?

That aircraft was equipped with RR Trent engines, which are not quite as powerful as the GE90 engines.

 

On the subject of pax trying to retrieve their bags from the overhead bins...

 

Airlines need to invest in a central locking mechanism that ensures these things can't open after leaving the gate until the cockpit crew and/or the chief FA determines it's okay to do so.

 

Also as a tip: When traveling, carry all passports and other required documents, credit cards, etc. in your pockets and/or purse.

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Good grief, what is so important in the luggage, next thing we will hear about is someone catching Pokemon GO on the slides and taxiways during the evacuation.  :Shame On You:

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According to the BBC, they were making a standard approach into 12L when the ATC ordered them to do a GA. No windshear conditions are being reported.

 

(...)

 

 

The METAR at the time of the accident included "WS ALL RWY " ("Windshear all runways"), so all over the field. The G/A was initiated by the crew. After the crew had advised ATC, ATC instructed them to climb to 4.000 ft. ATC audio was being scanned and recorded and can be accessed via certain live/archive ATC sites.

 

There's been a lot of misinformation about this accident, some of it coming right from people at the airport - why???

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Good grief, what is so important in the luggage

 

 

Most likely  their passports  and  money

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Rick,

 

Shows how different some nationalities are. Complete lack of common sense! :mad:


Most likely  their passports  and  money

 

It would have been obvious as soon as the aircraft landed that there was a serious problem. When cabin crew deploy emergency chutes I think I would put saving my life ahead of any material possessions which can be replaced unlike my life.

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Shows how different some nationalities are. Complete lack of common sense!

 

Yikes, that's a bit harsh Ray.

 

These people are probably all in shock, i very much doubt they are thinking entirely rationally, they are also likely to be migrant workers, without all there documents it will probably not be easy to work in the UAE, they may face being sent home.  

If you or I left our passports and wallet on the plane it's a rather inconvenient trip to the UK embassy and phone call to friends, for these people it may well be no money and deported back to the country of origin.

 

I remember falling off my bike in Prestbury (an affluent part of Cheshire), i had smashed my head against a tree, but i was still trying to ride my bike (badly damaged and without a seat) back home.  Fortunately somebody pulled over and told me to stop and called an Ambulance.  I eventually came to my senses in the back of the Ambulance.  Shock does strange things to people.

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The METAR at the time of the accident included "WS ALL RWY " ("Windshear all runways"), so all over the field. The G/A was initiated by the crew. After the crew had advised ATC, ATC instructed them to climb to 4.000 ft. ATC audio was being scanned and recorded and can be accessed via certain live/archive ATC sites.

 

There's been a lot of misinformation about this accident, some of it coming right from people at the airport - why???

Thanks for the correction, Oliver. Explains certain things.

 

 

ahead of any material possessions which can be replaced unlike my life.

Superbly put, Ray

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