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Top 10 Reasons FSW will be the next "Flight Simulator 2017"

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Interesting take on FSW by Jordon King

Not sure I agree with all his points, but makes some valid observations

 

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This may very well end up being a great flightsim release... but there certainly have been other Entertainment Releases since FSX...

- MS FLight

- Dovetail Flight School

both of which flopped..

So, lets wait and see :cool:

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This can't be my sim of choice until major players like FSLabs or PMDG are onboard with FSW. I could see it become my sim of choice for GA though, this Trusky looks mighty good :)

John.

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So, essentially a video repeating what I and several other people have been saying on the Avsim DTG Flight Sim World forum for months.

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I'm very conscious that DTG-Martin kept reiterating that the new sim would require two to three years development to put in all the stuff they had in mind. Now maybe DTG have bought in some functions that they originally planned to redevelop themselves and perhaps they've increased the size of the team but I still believe FSW needs another year or so to complete development of the major sim functions.

That's not to say that FSW won't exit EA some time later this year. I just hope that FSW is in a "good enough" state to hack it as a release product with a rather higher purchase price. It would be a shame for DTG to blow the favourable response it's starting to receive. I believe much will depend on whether DTG continue delivering updated functions without requiring full repurchase of "major versions" until all the major functions have been reworked and are in a stable state.

 

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Very good review. Hopefully it will be watched by many fence sitters and encorage them to come onboard.

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I agree with most of his points apart from the title it may be the next best flight simulator 2018/19 or 2020 but considering its mid August it's too late to say it's the best next gen sim for the 2017 In my opinion.

looking forward to its future though 

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So its going to be the go to simulator in 2017???? Only 4 1/2 months left left in 2017 and its absolute junk! With the number of people investing in P3Dv4 I think DTG and FSW is about a year or more too late! I am not interested in anything TDG has to offer.

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Nor that the other sims are stopping to develop either  and who knows

 

 

 

 

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I wasn't one to jump immediately into FSX when it released. This sim is no different. Going to wait until it matures a bit before diving into it.

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They have a very long way to go before it is the flight simulator of any year.

I take a review from a guy who is sponsored by flight sim products with a grain of salt. There are a lot 'but no quite yet' comments in this video. Not quite yet the flight sim of 2017........?

FSW has so many features missing, like real world weather - come on, really, Autogen popping, Autogen minimal radius, old ground texture issues, cartoonish looking grey bands, passing as roads.... the list is almost endless, but at least very long.

They can't hide the fact that it is an old architecture with many limitations.

As Mr. King pointed out, any flight sim lives from 3rd party, otherwise it will die a slow (or fast) death. Dovetails 3rd party policy is dismal to say the least, as major 3rd party developers have pointed out recently. To my knowledge nothing has changed in this regard.

Until it looks like a new sim, I will not be supporting it.

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Chock said:

So, essentially a video repeating what I and several other people have been saying on the Avsim DTG Flight Sim World forum for months.

The first time I even heard of FSW, was from his videos. 

The way I look at it, if this was P3D, people would be raving and ranting about it. But since its FSW, everyone has a hyper critical opinion because they don't have any investment into this sim yet. But it is absurd to look at P3D and FSW and think, for even a moment, that FSW is a lesser sim. It frankly provides nearly every visual improvement everyone has been begging for and at a price that isn't absurd for "point" releases, and without a complex and uninviting EULA. If P3D has it, FSW has it under the hood, so people's concerns about "realism" are just absurd as well. They are the same sim, but this one is actually offering more than cloud shadows. 

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1 hour ago, YukonPete said:

So its going to be the go to simulator in 2017???? Only 4 1/2 months left left in 2017 and its absolute junk! With the number of people investing in P3Dv4 I think DTG and FSW is about a year or more too late!

It will be interesting to see how the numbers balance out when FSW out of early access and LM start to enforce the terms of their EULA and P3D suddenly costs a lot more people $200 rather than the $60 they're paying now.

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Some of the comments seem rather harsh. Are we forgetting this is in early access and needs time to mature. They are now on update 9 and have been improving FSW with each update. If DTG can keep the pace up then it could turn out to be a very good sim.

Agree there are a lot of issues that need to be addressed however.

 

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2 hours ago, YukonPete said:

So its going to be the go to simulator in 2017???? Only 4 1/2 months left left in 2017 and its absolute junk! With the number of people investing in P3Dv4 I think DTG and FSW is about a year or more too late! I am not interested in anything TDG has to offer.

If DTG sell only 30% of what FSX:SE sold on steam then they will only have 250,000 + sales.

Ray Fry.

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42 minutes ago, Dusk_Reaper said:

Some of the comments seem rather harsh.

You can't blame them really. If I'd paid all that money all those times for P3D, I'd be pretty P!$$3D right now too!

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1 hour ago, TheFlightSimGuy said:

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The way I look at it, if this was P3D, people would be raving and ranting about it. But since its FSW, everyone has a hyper critical opinion because they don't have any investment into this sim yet. But it is absurd to look at P3D and FSW and think, for even a moment, that FSW is a lesser sim...

Really???  :blush:

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15 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Really???  :blush:

Which one looks better to you? Which one is v3 and which one is v4? Is one maybe v2.5? Lets be honest, FSW is the best any MSFS sim has ever looked. 

Remind me why either one of these is worth $200 (plus the cost of addons) if I'm not a kid in school? It's the best option we had, so I paid it, but I can't wait to leave this thing for a good looking sim without having to do a total platform change. 

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15 minutes ago, TheFlightSimGuy said:

Which one looks better to you? Which one is v3 and which one is v4? Is one maybe v2.5? Lets be honest, FSW is the best any MSFS sim has ever looked. 

Remind me why either one of these is worth $200 (plus the cost of addons) if I'm not a kid in school? It's the best option we had, so I paid it, but I can't wait to leave this thing for a good looking sim without having to do a total platform change. 

I don't have P3D, but I would say the second one is newer because of the runway textures. By the way, I hope DTG fixes the runway textures they have. Tried to do it myself but can't find where they are pulling them from in the file structure...

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3 hours ago, YukonPete said:

So its going to be the go to simulator in 2017???? Only 4 1/2 months left left in 2017 and its absolute junk! With the number of people investing in P3Dv4 I think DTG and FSW is about a year or more too late! I am not interested in anything TDG has to offer.

Have you given it a try lately? Why is it "absolute junk"? Expound on your rhetoric...

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1 hour ago, TheFlightSimGuy said:

Which one looks better to you? Which one is v3 and which one is v4? Is one maybe v2.5? Lets be honest, FSW is the best any MSFS sim has ever looked. 

Remind me why either one of these is worth $200 (plus the cost of addons) if I'm not a kid in school? It's the best option we had, so I paid it, but I can't wait to leave this thing for a good looking sim without having to do a total platform change.

Well, I paid the $200 for V4, and have said goodbye to FSX.

Better looking terrain and overall lighting,  no more popping of autogen trees and buildings..  lots of my favorite addons, including Orbx scenery, Garmin GTN gauges, fully functioning airplanes.. rock solid sim.

FSW,  yes it can look really good, but it is very much an unfinished product in its current state.. lets check it out again a year from now!

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18 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Well, I paid the $200 for V4, and have said goodbye to FSX.

Better looking terrain and overall lighting,  no more popping of autogen trees and buildings..  lots of my favorite addons, including Orbx scenery, Garmin GTN gauges, fully functioning airplanes.. rock solid sim.

FSW,  yes it can look really good, but it is very much an unfinished product in its current state.. lets check it out again a year from now!

You hit the nail on the head Bert. An unfinished $25.00 product...

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Truesky basically blows any other simulation of atmospherics out of the water. If only P3Dv4 had this...

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1 hour ago, switch686 said:

I don't have P3D, but I would say the second one is newer because of the runway textures. By the way, I hope DTG fixes the runway textures they have. Tried to do it myself but can't find where they are pulling them from in the file structure...

That is p3d v3. The 2 year old sim. The top one is v4 which was recently released. Proves my point brilliantly from someone who doesn't have a dog in the fight.

In 2 years, DTG has accomplished more than Lockheed Martin has in nearly 7. Did people really pay for P3D for all sim director and control station updates? I think not. This is where consumer money should be. Not with a defense contractor who won't even talk to us. 

 

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