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I bought P3D v4.5 a few days ago (5.04). Will it be possible to get discount or free upgrade to v5?


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38 minutes ago, ols500 said:

will a gTX 1060 6gb be enough for all the typical addons (30fps atm in v4-orbx, active sky, pmdg) or will i have to pay for like a rtx2060 super

I'd say video memory is the most important thing in V5, and 8 GB is the probably the absolute minimum. Below that, you'll really have to play with settings to memory usage under control, because the sim cannot even use all of it, the OS reserve some for its own use. With 8GB, you have about 6.9 GB free, and we managed to exhaust them by raising settings, and we didn't use many add-ons.

Don't want to spend too much for a 2080 Ti ? Do the smart thing, and get a USED 1080 Ti, which has 11GB. P3D V5 doesn't support RTX anway, so the 2080 Ti is a bit wasted. Or an used Titan, or maybe the AMD Radeon VII, which is the only consumer card I know that comes with 16GB.

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7 minutes ago, Piohib said:

I bought P3D v4.5 a few days ago (5.04). Will it be possible to get discount or free upgrade to v5?

just use your money back option from LM.

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23 minutes ago, Piohib said:

I bought P3D v4.5 a few days ago (5.04). Will it be possible to get discount or free upgrade to v5?

You have a 2 weeks refund....that should do the trick

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25 minutes ago, virtuali said:

Don't want to spend too much for a 2080 Ti ? Do the smart thing, and get a USED 1080 Ti, which has 11GB. P3D V5 doesn't support RTX anway, so the 2080 Ti is a bit wasted. Or an used Titan, or maybe the AMD Radeon VII, which is the only consumer card I know that comes with 16GB.

Yeah, no thanks. That is how you end up with some card salvaged out of an old bitcoin mining platform that has been run flat out for a year+ in someones closet. The online photos are of a nearly perfect card, but when you actually get it in the mail it's gee, why do all of the capacitors look pregnant...


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1 minute ago, tolip2 said:

Nobody even dares to comment on the terrible light popping that we see throughout that posted video?

We saved that for the MSFS fanbase. Fire at will, let your P3D rant flow 🤪

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On 4/4/2020 at 7:34 PM, joby33y said:

If LM are going to charge $$ for an 'upgrade' to v5, it'd better be something great....considering the competitive landscape

Do you really think LM is considering how much they sell of P3D and how stiff the sim-market competition is?
LM is not some kind of software house depending on selling games. The cost of developing P3D is peanuts for them and the current installed base/sales is nice 'collateral damage'.
Heck, if they sell one more F-22 they can financially support the P3D development team into the next century 😉
For them it is simply a vehicle to provide their customers with a very basic training platform.

 

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4 hours ago, Makinen11 said:

So what exactly is preventing the vatsim clients from creating a custom multiplayer session as shown in the FS trailer and continue to work as they have until now?

How do you know this and state it like it's a fact?

That's not how the network works.


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3 hours ago, virtuali said:

A quick test here at FSDT KORD V2, to show some of the performance gain you can expect with V5, thanks to DX12:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,23309.0.html

I tried my best to do an "apples vs apples" comparison, using the same settings, same airplane, same gate, same screen res, etc. TrueSky was enabled, you can disable it if you like the old clouds more, for a bit extra fps ( not much ). 

What is interesting, was my GPU occupation:

P3D V4 was at 60%, with about 5.0GB out of 12GB used

P3D V5 was a 5%, with about 6.0GB used.

So, other than the frame rate, it seems P3D V5 has more HEADROOM to accept more detailed scenery, textures, etc. Provided you have enough VRAM available.

 

So we can finally go past the MSAA x8 and use higher SSAA settings without the performance impact from clouds, etc... to reduce that night shimmer issue with PBR I hope! 


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Thanks @virtuali good idea!


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2 hours ago, Piohib said:

I bought P3D v4.5 a few days ago (5.04). Will it be possible to get discount or free upgrade to v5?

If I recall correctly, in the past you would get a free upgrade within a certain time frame.
But don't hold your breath on it, nor sue me if I'm not correct.


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2 hours ago, virtuali said:

I'd say video memory is the most important thing in V5, and 8 GB is the probably the absolute minimum. Below that, you'll really have to play with settings to memory usage under control, because the sim cannot even use all of it, the OS reserve some for its own use. With 8GB, you have about 6.9 GB free, and we managed to exhaust them by raising settings, and we didn't use many add-ons.

Don't want to spend too much for a 2080 Ti ? Do the smart thing, and get a USED 1080 Ti, which has 11GB. P3D V5 doesn't support RTX anway, so the 2080 Ti is a bit wasted. Or an used Titan, or maybe the AMD Radeon VII, which is the only consumer card I know that comes with 16GB.

Surely this depends on a variety of factors? (screen resolution, AA/AF settings, scenery complexity and autogen density settings, complex weather, lots of detailed AI planes etc)? Some users mentioned using huge amounts of VRAM in P3D v4, but I ran it on my old PC with a 2GB GTX 770.


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3 hours ago, penta_a said:

just use your money back option from LM.

 

3 hours ago, mpo910 said:

You have a 2 weeks refund....that should do the trick

 

1 hour ago, Egbert Drenth said:

If I recall correctly, in the past you would get a free upgrade within a certain time frame.
But don't hold your breath on it, nor sue me if I'm not correct.

Thanks for explanation.


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Someone mentioned this earlier. And the photos seem to confirm. But are cloud shadows really gone with this truesky? That was the first thing that made me go "WOAH!" When i first switched to P3D (v2). As much as V5 has me very excited. If it removes that amazing feature. I may have to reconsider my current viewpoint. 

Any developer on here who has had access, please let us know! Thanks.

 

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