1 minute ago, haskell said:

I would add to your analogy the part that has me about to buy this plane:

All the suit stores are closed and may not be open for months. Walmart is literally the only place you can buy a suit today. Do you buy the Walmart suit or go to the job interview in an Iron Maiden t-shirt (all your “default” closet has in it?)

We have two choices today. Fly the default or buy the Carenado, knowing its flaws. I’m prolly about to drop $30 🙂 

Hehe...touche'

Great follow-up to the analogy!

Me personally, left with that decision....I'm either going to that interview in my Iron Maiden (or Led Zeppin) T and saying "You're hiring me for my talent, not how pretty I dress up", or saying "I'll wait for a better job to come around". 🙂

 

Oh boy Carenado invading MSFS. That was expected. I wonder if any of their "aircraft" actually flies better than default Asobo ones.

1 hour ago, OSM said:

Autopilot NAV with VOR and GPS just PERFECT! To avoid Autopilot NAV 'zig-zag" flying you should have GPS DTK=CRS=HDG.

 

Don't know how you came up with that, but I am going to try that and report back 🙂

20 minutes ago, OSM said:

Confirm! Leaning and FF close to the POH at least at the 10k feet.

 

33 minutes ago, Prpn said:

POH... and leaning properly to 50F below peak EGT gives me the fuel flow pretty close the Section 5 (Performance) of the POH. Slightly more since it was warmer than ISA but otherwise quite accurate. 

Perhaps not be so hasty to judge others “LOL”. Man, this forum gets worse every time I check it. 

Lean mixture  and observe  your gph . It will go up as you lean. After you continue to the top of peak your gph will increase and then suddenly drop. In fact ROP 50F will give more or less correct figures. Opposite from what POH recommend. 

Also if  your opinion  doesn’t align with other problem is not with a forum but with your ego 😉 

 

I am enjoying this aircraft (except for trim sensitivy..not sure if its the plane or the fact that we cannot adjust sensitivity anymore)

I did an IFR flight from Orbx airports Burbank to Santa Barbara.

I am liking the flight plan mode in Flight sim. Its simple and great. Love it. Except I forgot to dial in the IFR frequency on the Garmin GPs so I had to had fly to land.

 

7 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Also if  your opinion  doesn’t align with other problem is not with a forum but with your ego 😉

 

So perhaps don’t blame your issue with Carenado on someone who has a different opinion from yours 😉. 

And onto the ignore list you go. 

21 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Don't know how you came up with that, but I am going to try that and report back 🙂

Unfortunately, that does not work for me..

CYCD to KORS at 3000 feet

DTK=HDG=CRS=100

Autopilot on NAV... Zigzags from 90 to 110 to 90 to 110

Exact 20 degrees abrupt direction changes.. that should help with debugging 😉

And then: My avionics turned dark.. ☹️

Edited September 19, 20205 yr by Bert Pieke

2 minutes ago, Prpn said:

So perhaps don’t blame your issue with Carenado on someone who has a different opinion from yours 😉. 

And onto the ignore list you go. 

I offer you way to observe that mixture doesn’t work right .

Whatever list I go doesn’t change that fact . Byeee lol

Just now, Bert Pieke said:

Unfortunately, that does not work for me..

CYCD to KORS at 3000 feet

DTK=HDG=CRS=100

Autopilot on NAV... Swings from 90 to 110 to 90 to 110

Exact 20 degrees abrupt direction changes.. that should help with debugging 😉

And then: My avionics turned dark.. ☹️

Same for me except avionics doesn’t go dark. I attribute it to fresh reinstall prior patch 2. But who knows why some people affected by this and some don’t 

Just now, sd_flyer said:

Same for me except avionics doesn’t go dark.

Give it time.. this was the first time for me 🙂

@Steve Dra

The analogy is flawed, tbh. You are comparing a real world scenario with a game scenario. Not everyone is trying to learn the ins & out nuances about a particular aeroplane. For many it is more liken to some free time to fantasize about flying around and as long as the plane takes off, flys and lands ok then they are happy. There are TONS of folks out here who see it this way. In this scenario they don't NEED their aircraft to do anything more...they don't need the fuel burn to be correct, nor the leaning procedures, nor the correct takeoff roll distances, etc.

Buying a half-arsed looking suit at Walmart for a job interview is foolish (assuming you could afford better) because we all NEED a job. We don't ALL need a high fidelity aircraft to enjoy the sim. Your analogy is like saying that if someone doesn't buy high-end stereo speakers that they won't enjoy listening to the radio, and that's simply not so.

Edited September 19, 20205 yr by hangar

2 minutes ago, hangar said:

@Steve Dra

The analogy is flawed, tbh. You are comparing a real world scenario with a game scenario. Not everyone is trying to learn the ins & out nuances about a particular aeroplane.

 

I am sure that there are folks who do not care, and if the airplane sold for $10, maybe I would let it pass also.

But this is a fairly sophisticated simulation with lots of "tested by real pilots" etc in the description and a price tag to match.

Surely we can ask for basic engine management like "leaning" and basic autopilot bahavior, like following a NAV course, to work correctly..

Carenado has done better, in FSX, P3D, and XPlane, and over time I sure hope they get MSFS figured out as well 🙂

1 hour ago, Steve Dra said:

However...a good analogy I feel would be...you're shopping at Walmart for a business suit for a job interview....you find a nice one, looks pretty and all, but when look closely, the lapel is sewed on crooked, the pocket is upside down, and the label is on the outside of the suit.

I think it’s just a case of making the best of what we have available, as it’s all we’ve got for now...

 

3 minutes ago, hangar said:

@Steve Dra

The analogy is flawed, tbh. You are comparing a real world scenario with a game scenario. Not everyone is trying to learn the ins & out nuances about a particular aeroplane. For many it is more liken to some free time to fantasize about flying around and as long as the plane takes off, flys and lands ok then they are happy. There are TONS of folks out here who see it this way. In this scenario they don't NEED their aircraft to do anything more...they don't need the fuel burn to be correct, nor the leaning procedures, nor the correct takeoff roll distances, etc.

Buying a half-arsed looking suit at Walmart for a job interview is foolish (assuming you could afford better) because we all NEED a job. We don't ALL need a high fidelity aircraft to enjoy the sim. Your analogy is like saying that if someone doesn't buy high-end stereo speakers that they won't enjoy listening to the radio, and that's simply not so.

Yeah I was stretching a bit with that one. 🙂 

Funny you should mention about the stereo because I recently used an analogy regrading audiophiles and their obsession with audio stats on paper that the human ear can't discern from a $1000 CD player to $200 one. 🙂

The point I want to get across is that there are easily fixable issues that would put the whole topic to bed if they were addressed before release, and/or we had reasonable assurance they'd be addressed after.  Regarding my note that I've owned several Carenado titles in other sims.... its because of the specific fact that Bert and other legends here will fix, or have already fixed those issues, and "modded" the aircraft so all us nuts who want decent (not perfect) planes in a flight simulator will have them.  IF Bert and crew did not exist, I'd have exactly ONE Carenado title. 😉

 

 

19 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Give it time.. this was the first time for me 🙂

I will . So far I tried 4 hour flight in TBM and 2 hours in Mooney after the patch