15 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

I can only think of VNAV, because that's the one big difference between the CRJ and the 737.

I don’t think it’s VNAV as I think RSR mentioned VNAV works and also the WT CJ4 has VNAV, so it is possible, also it’s an issue with the platform not the SDK, which VNAV would be sdk

 

19 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

Again, it's an akward situation and one that won't stop after release of the 737

It has been said on the forums that once the issues is solved for the 737 then it shouldn’t be an issue for the 747/777

 

3 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Is answered in the openening post.

I think Dave meant how many of the product lines can be bought with the $99 credit

 

I like the new pricing model. I am like the vast majority of buyers who want just one model. Not interested in variants. Sounds like they are a few months away from release though. 

5 minutes ago, EasternT3 said:

I think Dave meant how many of the product lines can be bought with the $99 credit

 

This is indeed the big question. It "should" be the same amount of variants that the base package of the NGXu included. But will it be? Remains to be seen.

5 minutes ago, EasternT3 said:

I don’t think it’s VNAV as I think RSR mentioned VNAV works and also the WT CJ4 has VNAV, so it is possible, also it’s an issue with the platform not the SDK, which VNAV would be sdk

 

It has been said on the forums that once the issues is solved for the 737 then it shouldn’t be an issue for the 747/777

 

I think Dave meant how many of the product lines can be bought with the $99 credit

 

Well there is still no possibility yet to read wind data for any (custom) addon, so that means VNAV will not be precise even if it "works". Winds or no winds can make a big difference between coming down at IAF or overshoot the whole airport. I guess wind data is technically SDK, but I am not sure.

For your second statement: Well they also said the 737 will be out on christmas 2020, so I think it's a bit delusional to think that after the 737 everything will be good. The problem is not the 737, but the SDK (not only for PMDG, but for Fenix, Majestic et al.). And I didn't even talk about updates breaking the 737...
Anyway I might sound pessimistic, but I am frankly just predicting on the base of the development up until now.

I think they’ll have to price the -600 pretty cheaply to get any takers.  

Another positive vote for that pricing structure, I don’t need or want all variants, I really like being able to pick and choose which variants I’d like to purchase… Cant wait, Day 1 purchase for me! 

Edited January 17, 20224 yr by flyinpilot212121

2 hours ago, teletom said:

So why not bring out the 800 first then? 
Can't wait six weeks, so have to buy the 700 as well .... 🙂

Exactly my thought.  I really only want the 800 but there is no way I can wait 6 weeks, will end up with both.

49 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Is answered in the openening post.

late reply.  deleted. 

Edited January 17, 20224 yr by micstatic

22 minutes ago, regis9 said:

I think they’ll have to price the -600 pretty cheaply to get any takers.  

That's a good point.  i would rather have it than the -600.  mainly because I think it is the best looking of the family.  I also have no problem flying fictional.  But your point remains.  I don't see too many people buying it.  

25 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

For your second statement: Well they also said the 737 will be out on christmas 2020, so I think it's a bit delusional to think that after the 737 everything will be good. The problem is not the 737, but the SDK (not only for PMDG, but for Fenix, Majestic et al.). And I didn't even talk about updates breaking the 737...
Anyway I might sound pessimistic, but I am frankly just predicting on the base of the development up until now.

Oh yeah, I do think there should be the allowance of skepticism but lets say the issue is VNAV, once they fix it for the 737 then you would hope the 777 and 747 wouldn’t encounter the same issue but yes it all remains to be seen, I’m definitely the opposite of you where I try and be as optimistic as possible.

I am also still sceptical of the the SDK line of thought, RSR has said it isn’t the SDK, Iceman has said the SDK is fine, other devs have said the SDK is now no longer an issue, as far as we are aware, PMDG is the only dev saying there’s an issue and it’s a platform issue.

Now here’s a point for everyone, could the issue be Xbox related? PMDG pulled the DC6 for Xbox due to incompatibility with the platform and it’s known PMDG want to bring the Boeings to Xbox as well at the same time, there’s no eta on the fix for the DC6, is this Xbox platform fix what’s holding up the 737?

1 hour ago, Doug47 said:

You’re missing out on the 700 as it flies like a sports car in the sky! It looks the best of the range too as it doesn’t have the stretched look. And the BBJ likewise. The sleek look, the high class interior and able to basically to long haul flights. 
The 700/BBJ make the 800 feel like a bus. 

Yeah I'm happy with this I don't care about airliner ops.  I always liked the BBJ model though.  They go to destinations that normally scheduled air carriers don't.  But they can also go to those regular large airports.

13 minutes ago, MarkW said:

 will end up with both.

And that's how they get ya lol!

Randazzo and PMDG marketing at its best. They really know how to get folks talking. Say something a little frustrated at Asobo then pull it back and say he didn't mean it like that. Then this splitting and staggered release of the variants is genius. The sim community biting at everything like a bunch of sharks lol.

33 minutes ago, regis9 said:

I think they’ll have to price the -600 pretty cheaply to get any takers.  

I wonder if the -600 pack will be the one with the military and other variants, be one way to pad out the product

52 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

The problem is not the 737, but the SDK (not only for PMDG, but for Fenix, Majestic et al.). 

Correction on this. Fenix has not reported any issues with the SDK.  Aamir, the lead of Fenix, has said Fenix only works with the "mature aspects of the MSFS SDK":

Aamir also gave an update after SU7 where he said the productivity of the Fenix team was doing very good, and it appears Fenix's productivity after SU7 is the polar opposite of PMDG, who have apparently suffered a setback after SU7.  Here are Aamir's exact words:

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We’re very happy with the direction of MSFS and its respective development tools – Sim Update 7 has improved our ability to quickly iterate new testing builds, and overall our development rate has accelerated significantly as new updates release for the title.

This goes back to Fenix's architecture, where they are emulating most of the systems with Prosim in an external process for their A320 so Fenix relies less on the MSFS SDK, whereas the PMDG 737 is probably much more "tightly coupled" to the MSFS SDK.

Edited January 17, 20224 yr by abrams_tank