1 minute ago, regis9 said:

I had an Oculus Rift and used it a bit with P3D and a bit more with X-Plane 11.  Sold it before MSFS was released because it was collecting dust.  I didn't use it much because although the experience using it was neat, and it definitely gave the illusion of being in a plane, I found it was to low resolution to actually do any flying that required manipulating a panel, MCDU/FMC etc.  The screen door effect was annoying too and performance in P3Dv4 was pretty bad.  Also it had two (or three) sensors that required recalibration if they were moved in the slightest (my cats would keep bumping into them), so I got annoyed and didn't really use it.

I told myself I needed to wait a few generations but sometimes (ie reading posts like this) I'm tempted to try VR again, just not sure about the visual tradeoffs that come with VR and how far it's come since the Rift. 

We have one at work, where I work part time , and after he first few days, it is in a drawer somewhere in the shop, and hasn't been touched. I think they paid around $300 for it. 

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

We have one at work, where I work part time , and after he first few days, it is in a drawer somewhere in the shop, and hasn't been touched. I think they paid around $300 for it. 

It takes time to set it up and figure out what works for your hardware.  There's not a one sizes fits all. It took me a few days with the Oculus to get it right but the Wifi killed it for me.  The benefit of all that setup made the HP Reverg G2 a breeze to setup.  

1 hour ago, Dillon said:

my son

I always thought that was you in your avatar pic but I guess it’s your son? Or you a few years ago?

To the point I’m hoping for another ‘wow’ experience with VR one day. I had OculusCV1 but the visual quality was only really good enough for Elite Dangerous for me. Considering the G2 but at the moment 2D with TrackIR is pretty satisfying, especially at higher render scales.

I don't think flying IFR with a VR headset would work well for those who own dedicated flight hardware such as yokes, throttle quadrants, tablets, etc. I rely on those to fly. How would I be able to see what I'm pressing or turning if I have a VR headset on?

Edited January 18, 20224 yr by captain420

I took the VR plunge using the relatively cheap PSVR headset for my PS4 a while back to check out the fuss.  The resolution is terrible but I agree the "experience" is great, I was literally pooping my pants playing Resident Evil in VR!  

However......I wear glasses and need them for watching TV because I'm shortsighted (meaning I can read without my glasses but struggle with distance at say 4 or 5 feet, the typical distance watching the TV from the sofa.  The issue I had with VR is without glasses I had the same issue watching the TV from the sofa, I couldn't see the screen very well despite the fact I had two screens right near my eyeballs in a VR headset.  So I needed to wear my glasses with the headset and it just wasn't suitable for periods of long play.

So I can't imagine a shiny new headset with better resolution on the PC playing flightsim would solve any of my issues.

Tried it once 2 years ago with P3D but it was not sharp enough for me and I also want to see and flip real switches and other hardware…

I am new to the game, got a Quest 2 just yesterday. I use a USB-C cable and setting it up wasn't much of a hazzle. The image is still a bit blurry, but I haven't figured out whether that is a problem with the Q2 or hardware-related; the hardware being my eyes 😉 I haven't succeeded in wearing my glasses with the Q2 yet 🙂

Someone asked above about VR with different ability of your two eyes. I have that, but only mildly. If my right eye is sharp, my left eye will be blurry unless I wear corresponding glasses. It was a great VR experience yesterday, but again, with some caveats that may be related to eyes, Q2, or simply to the fact that I haven't tried to tamper with the settings yet.

4 minutes ago, captain420 said:

I don't think flying IFR with a VR headset would work well for those who own dedicated flight hardware such as yokes, throttle quadrants, tablets, etc. I rely on those to fly. How would I be able to see what I'm pressing or turning if I have a VR headset on?

I sim the way you do.  Most of what you need to adjust in the cockpit is clickable.  As far as your yoke, most of us have buttons programed on it so finding those is pretty easy. It actually works more than you know.  The only key I use on the keyboard is adjusting seat height, Baro pressure, and contacting ATC.  The rest is done in the VC.  This is the future hands down on so many levels (gaming, movies, simulation, etc).  The higher market headsets (HP Reverb G2 and HTC Vive) give a much better experience than the Oculus which was not meant for simming in the first place.

1 hour ago, Dillon said:

Again I was hooked so I took the plunge and bought the recommended headset for FS2020 and that's the 'HP Reverb G2'.

Enjoy! BTW, lots of great videos from VR Flight Sim guy on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/c/VRFlightSimGuy/videos

Just now, DylanM said:

Enjoy! BTW, lots of great videos from VR Flight Sim guy on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/c/VRFlightSimGuy/videos

The problem is no one can seem to capture what you see when you have the headset on.  The videos can be a little misleading as there is a 'slight' downgrade in the visual quality but not as bad as years ago.  What you see with the headset on is much the same as you would see sitting in the real plane and clear as day from within the cockpit.  Outside is a little grainy but not a show stopper by a long shot.  That's why I'm done 2D simming...

22 minutes ago, Dillon said:

Times have changed trust me... 

What do you think of the narrow sweet spot/field of view?  I've come close to buying the G2 a few times (they had a big Black Friday sale) but reading the concerns around these items put me off a bit and put my back on my "wait for the next generation" thought.

7 minutes ago, regis9 said:

What do you think of the narrow sweet spot/field of view?  I've come close to buying the G2 a few times (they had a big Black Friday sale) but reading the concerns around these items put me off a bit and put my back on my "wait for the next generation" thought.

The G2 has a sweet spot I have yet to find and I'm still enjoying it. Over time I'll report back with a 'I FOUND IT' post.  What I'm noticing is along the outer edges of your view it can be a little blurry but for what you get totally it doesn't bother me.  Here's the deal, once you fly for a few days in VR (after getting it setup to your hardware) and go back to 2D it's like going back to FSX.  Yes the graphics aren't as sharp and there's this and that like what I mentioned above but what you gain outweighs the minuses.  It's much the same in what we're getting with FS2020.  ATC needs improvement, no turn slip, the sim is broken every month but do we go back to P3D or XPlane, no... That's where VR is at right now and can only get better.💯

Edited January 18, 20224 yr by Dillon

21 minutes ago, captain420 said:

How would I be able to see what I'm pressing or turning if I have a VR headset on?

The elephant in the VRoom :)

Just now, MarkDH said:

The elephant in the VRoom 🙂

It's a none issue if you own one.  I thought the same thing but it's truly not a problem.

1 minute ago, Dillon said:

Here's the deal, once your fly for a few days in VR and go back it's like going back to FSX. 

I had the opposite experience. VR, with a. 3090 and a HP G2. Really, after the initial wow was out the way, it was all really rather cumbersome. Going back to 2D on a large screen with trackIR was actually quite refreshing, even more so the visual clarity InHD 4K blew VR away. 
Also, using peripherals with VR is just so awkward, coupled with the scuba diver effect, and that was enough for me to sell G2. 
To each their own.