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DC Designs Concorde on sale.

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Is there a keyboard sequence for the Visor Controls ?

Controlling with the mouse seems to be hit and miss.

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Hey @Ray Proudfoot
Thanks for all your assistance so far. Have been really helpful. However, I must aquire your help one more time 🙂

I'm sitting trying to dechipher these flightplans from concordefpl.co.uk . Maybe I'm just getting too old for this 🙂 Or I am not used to reading these things. What does the below mean?

Heathrow – New York

(FPL-BAW1-IS
-CONC/H-SRWXY/C
-EGLL1730
-N0563F280 CPT L9 MALBY DCT C/UPGAS/N0740F280F430 SL2 MERLY SL2 LESLU SL2 C/5041N01500W/M200F450PLUS NATSM 4700N05000W 4246N06500W 42N067W SM2A KENDA/M100F490 DCT LINND DCT OWENZ DCT CAMRN DCT
-KJFK0328 KEWR
-EET/EGGX0046 20W0058 30W0118 40W0139 50W0202 53W0209 60W0226 65W0239 67W0245 KENDA0258 LINND0303 OWENZ0310 CAMRN0318 REG/GBOAG SEL/BHFJ RMK/TCASEQUIPPED DOF/031023 IFP/RVSMVIOLATION ORGN/EGLLBAWD)

Some parts of it, I can understand, while other parts - well... I assume some of these designations are accel / decel points? For instance: What is "-EGLL1730" ? Is that departure-time? In what? Local time?

Sorry for being confused. And thanks a lot again! 🙂

 

Best regards,
--Anders Bermann--
____________________
Scandinavian VA

Pilot-ID: SAS2471

2 hours ago, Beagle12 said:

Is there a keyboard sequence for the Visor Controls ?

Controlling with the mouse seems to be hit and miss.

You can set the Visor with the flaps Keyboard command F5 to F7..

cheers 😉

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2 hours ago, anden145 said:

Hey @Ray Proudfoot
Thanks for all your assistance so far. Have been really helpful. However, I must aquire your help one more time 🙂

I'm sitting trying to dechipher these flightplans from concordefpl.co.uk . Maybe I'm just getting too old for this 🙂 Or I am not used to reading these things. What does the below mean?


Heathrow – New York

(FPL-BAW1-IS
-CONC/H-SRWXY/C
-EGLL1730
-N0563F280 CPT L9 MALBY DCT C/UPGAS/N0740F280F430 SL2 MERLY SL2 LESLU SL2 C/5041N01500W/M200F450PLUS NATSM 4700N05000W 4246N06500W 42N067W SM2A KENDA/M100F490 DCT LINND DCT OWENZ DCT CAMRN DCT
-KJFK0328 KEWR
-EET/EGGX0046 20W0058 30W0118 40W0139 50W0202 53W0209 60W0226 65W0239 67W0245 KENDA0258 LINND0303 OWENZ0310 CAMRN0318 REG/GBOAG SEL/BHFJ RMK/TCASEQUIPPED DOF/031023 IFP/RVSMVIOLATION ORGN/EGLLBAWD)

Some parts of it, I can understand, while other parts - well... I assume some of these designations are accel / decel points? For instance: What is "-EGLL1730" ? Is that departure-time? In what? Local time?

Sorry for being confused. And thanks a lot again! 🙂

 

I’m not very familiar with all of it either. 1730 is departure time. F280 is FL before supersonic climb starts. UPGAS was the accel point. F280F430 is clearance to FL430. Not sure about SL2, possibly a jet route.

5041N01500W is where it was expected to reach Mach 2 above FL450. NATSM is the North Atlantic Track SM Concorde routing followed by the waypoints.

M100F490 may mean passing through FL490 at KENDA with a target of Mach 1. The rest are waypoints to the STAR CAMRN.

KEWR is the alternate airport. The rest is beyond me other than GBOAG - the aircraft used.

Hope that helps.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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Pure guesses on my part:

EET details are the estimated elapsed time at various coordinates/waypoints. RMK/TCASEQUIPPED self-explanatory, IFP/RVSMVIOLATION seems to be saying the reduced vertical separation minimums may be violated, and ORGN/EGLLBAWD says that the plan originated at British Airways Dispatch, Heathrow.

Edited by ConstVoid

Ian Box

I have three Concordes. That of FS Labs, Colimata and finally DC Design for FS2020. I am a retired pilot and for me of these three Concordes none is perfect or bad. The latter being the least expensive and yet it does not have to be ashamed in front of the competitors.

There are bugs which is normal since the plane has just been released. None of them are really realistic, but the three still have a taste for doing things right.

I congratulate DC Design for this Concorde.

Edited by Mangouste

M.Daniel

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4 hours ago, anden145 said:

-EGLL1730" ? Is that departure-time? In what? Local time?

Estimated Off-block time at Heathrow , UTC format (always use UTC in aviation)

1 hour ago, ConstVoid said:

IFP/RVSMVIOLATION seems to be saying the reduced vertical separation minimums may be violated

The concorde is RVSM approved as evidenced by the letter "W" in the Equipment field SRWXY/C)
@Ray Proudfoot Could Concorde accept any other flightlevels other than requested in the OFP? Like a 1000ft/2000ft stepclimb for instance? 

One other question related to the filed Equipment, they also indicate "Y" which is 8,33kHz radio. They last flew in 2003 long before 8,33kHz spacing became mandatory, but they had this capability? (assuming the flightplan above was from a real one)

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EASA PPL SEPL + NQ / CB-IR in progress
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47 minutes ago, SAS443 said:


@Ray Proudfoot Could Concorde accept any other flightlevels other than requested in the OFP? Like a 1000ft/2000ft stepclimb for instance? 

Concorde was always cleared to FL600. The block from FL430 upwards was cleared for it alone as no other aircraft would be in that block. Having said that it rarely reached FL600 on the JFK run as the air was too warm.

Regarding FL280 that was the most economical FL given its weight. For subsonic flights it could climb to FL350 and remain subsonic at the recommended cruise of Mach 0.95.

It may have been possible on the London - Bahrain route for it to climb higher than FL280 as the accel point was in the Adriatic just south of Venice. Maybe to FL340 but I’m not sure of that.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

2 hours ago, Mangouste said:

I have three Concordes. That of FS Labs, Colimata and finally DC Design for FS2020. I am a retired pilot and for me of these three Concordes none is perfect or bad. The latter being the least expensive and yet it does not have to be ashamed in front of the competitors.

There are bugs which is normal since the plane has just been released. None of them are really realistic, but the three still have a taste for doing things right.

I congratulate DC Design for this Concorde.

In what way are they not really realistic ?

When you say that the DC Designs does not need to be ashamed do you imply that it is not quiet as good as the two other ?

As a retired pilot which plane did you fly in real life ?

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Anyone flying Concorde across the North Atlantic this afternoon might be waiting longer than normal to get to Mach 2.

In my version (FSL P3Dv3) the ISA Dev at FL500 is just +1. That's resulting in a climb rate of just 100fpm. 61.6T of fuel remaining.

On passing LESLU I was at FL473, Mach 1.86 if anyone wants a comparison. Fuel is being handled manually to maintain a CG of 59.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

Thanks a lot, everyone for explaining all this! Big help.

The reason I was confused, with regards to the times (-EGLL1730) was, that didn't BAW001 (which was what this flightplan is from) usually take off from London/Heathrow in the morning? Ìn the ITVV video, they take off at 10.30. Not the afternoon like they say here?  

Best regards,
--Anders Bermann--
____________________
Scandinavian VA

Pilot-ID: SAS2471

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23 minutes ago, anden145 said:

Thanks a lot, everyone for explaining all this! Big help.

The reason I was confused, with regards to the times (-EGLL1730) was, that didn't BAW001 (which was what this flightplan is from) usually take off from London/Heathrow in the morning? Ìn the ITVV video, they take off at 10.30. Not the afternoon like they say here?  

That changed after 9/11 when it was found to be more lucrative for a late afternoon departure. Not sure when the morning departures ended.

I've just landed at JFK. 3h 19m to wheels down. Never got higher than FL583 due to warm upper air. Never colder than ISA Dev -1.

Hands up if you've turned off all four engines without remembering to raise the nose / visor first. If you have there isn't any power to raise them. Do it as soon as you reach the gate.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

The joy I felt in the older FS days somehow managing to install the *outstanding* Dassault Falcon 50 (2001+ by Yannick Lavigne, Fred Banting and Rob Young) freeware (with the pretty stewardess in the back cabin), was tremendous, and I've been chasing that joy for the last 20 or so years.

While the Falcon and Concord are wildly different planes, that joy of suspended belief is priceless, and am so grateful for this version! I hope the authors get rich and and decide to do a B-52 next! 😉

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