4 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I personally never had any interest in flying the Concord, especially with MSFS 2020. Too much good scenery to miss at high altitudes. 

Ah, but that's the beauty of this wonderful sim world. I might try a couple of "proper" flight in this, but I'm just as likely to use it for hedge-hopping. I can do that because - it's not real you know <grin>.

Yep pass for me too. I do take my hat off to the work and development gone into this bird though. Eagerly awaiting 737, Fenix and FBW a380. Nothing bitter here I genuinely hope the Concorde is a success. 

(Yawn) I just woke up. So what happened? Did Stoopy buy it ???

I am buying. My first airliner purchase in about 4 years.

4 hours ago, Chock said:

To use in INS, you start off by telling the system where it is in the world (by keying in lat/long coordinates), when it knows that, it spins up a bunch of very sensitive gyroscopes. Thereafter, the gyroscopes detect movement when the airliner sets off, and from this, the INS can surmise which way the aeroplane is going, how fast it is going etc, so it can update the reference of where it thinks it is. 

Allow me to add a few items.
You need to provide a "Present Position" because the INS in a Concorde for example is unable to compute Longitude.  It can "only" compute latitude, then it starts to compute aircraft heading / True North.  A coarse alignment ("gyro spin up") immediately starts when you put the Delco INS into "Align". However fine alignment needs a "present position" input from the crew.

Alignment itself is all about utilizing accelerometer ouput and earth's rotation force.

• make accelerometers register zero gravity (or up/down motion), by aligning the gyro stabilized platform so the accelerometers are parallell to Earth's surface.
• The accelerometers will now commence to register earth's rotational force - which varies by Latitude obviously. Output is a computed Latitude (which hopefully checks out with your "present position" Latitude)
• Find the relationship in West-East acceleration for the perpendicular mounted Accelerometers - Congrats, you have True North and subsequently aircraft Heading.
• Combine that with the "Present Position" Longitude that has been provided - we are good to go because we know:
  • Position
  • True North
  • Aircraft heading
  • that horisontal / vertical acceleration is (almost) perfectly in tune.

Final note: Airplane acceleration is sensed by accelerometers mounted on the gyro stabilized platform not the actual gyroscopes itself.

The gyroscopes job is to keep the platform level at all times - by applying corrections to errors which would otherwise break platform alignment - so the accelerometers  can correctly sense airplane movement in relation to earth's surface (to compute  groundspeed for instance).

Clear as mudd 😉 

Edited March 30, 20224 yr by SAS443

4 hours ago, JustFlightScott said:

Hope that helps clear that up.

Yep.  Doesn't matter to me, because I sim on PC, but I was talking to some guy the other day who only has an Xbox and is really looking forward to Concorde. 🙂

 

 

I grabbed it. I like it. I usually prefer fidelity on the order of PMDG, but I don't mind dropping out of the "study" category from time to time.  

 

The biggest issue I have with this bird is that you really need to spend time at the FE station, and the camera views in this sim are just a pain in the butt. I have bad eyes, so zooming in to instruments is important, but any time I'm sitting at the FE station and I zoom, when I zoom out it resets me to the captain's seat. Highly annoying.

 

8 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

If any of you would like to fly EGLL-KJFK and test the flight modelling try this. No need to fly the whole route.

27L departure using the CPT SID. Reheats on for takeoff and cancelled after 1m 15s. Climb out initially at 250kts then once above 6,000ft accelerate to  395kts for FL280.

Remain there until the accel point south of Cardiff. Autothrottles off, reheats on, full throttle and pitch up to maintain a speed just below Vmo. Engage MAX CLB / MAX CRS.

Reheats Off at Mach 1.7. That should take between 6-8 minutes by which time you should be at FL430.

Thereafter the climb rate will reduce significantly. You should hit Mach 2 at FL500.

If all that checks out you have a nice aircraft. The visuals can be adjusted. What really matters is the flight model.

Up to FL280, OK

Reheats after Accel point were on to Mach 1.7, I didn't time it, but hit 1.7 at FL445.

Reheats off, MAX CLB and hit Mach 2 at FL505.

Only issue is the ISA, it is showing -57 with an outside temp of -56.  It almost seems like a calculation error in the display rather than the actual number.

Sorry guys! For entertainment purposes only! Three hours of video with zero preparation by Rusty Dog! Still shaking my head!

 

 

Is the INS actually functional? Is there a GPS cheat mode available? Doesn't look too bad to me but I can't find much info on the former. EDIT looks like there's some kind of FMC?

Edited March 31, 20224 yr by jarmstro

1 hour ago, Doering said:

Sorry guys! For entertainment purposes only! Three hours of video with zero preparation by Rusty Dog! Still shaking my head!

 

 

What a disaster.

5 minutes ago, DJJose said:

What a disaster.

Not for the developers pocket. 😚

13 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

And 8 track tape players....😉

I miss those. Always thought the sound was better than 4 track.(In my car not a plane).

5 hours ago, Doering said:

Sorry guys! For entertainment purposes only! Three hours of video with zero preparation by Rusty Dog! Still shaking my head!

 

I just watched this, and lost count of the number of user errors as he hadn't even glanced at the manual. There are a couple of errors on my part with switch interactive points not locating the correct switches, but as Mark has posted here and many, many users online have proven conclusively, Concorde works correctly. So, not a disaster at all. And why do people use the drone camera to move about? This shows the interior of LOD01 ( low poly ) models, hence the simple seats - you're supposed to walk about to view the interior using the keypad arrows, which confines you to the correct interior model.

Edited March 31, 20224 yr by DC1973

For a slightly more balanced view from somebody who says they spent time using the Collimata Concorde;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJmuk9cPwRI

So far it's mostly positive reviews, and even Rusty Dog said he didn't regret buying Concorde. If his own errors are removed from his account, then it's down to a couple of switches not indicating properly, which I corrected in the code as I watched it. 

So yes, it is not a disaster at all, some people just not look at the Manual and purly have no clue about to fly this bird and do comments about things they never even tried..

May not be study Level ( what ever that means ) but that was mentioned from the Dev's all the way Down.

Thanks to the developers to bring us sutch an amazing plane as the Concorde to MSFS !

I think that is the only Concorde for a long time and i am glad i can use it within MSFS - just my 2 Cents.. 

cheers 😉