My take on this...  I really cannot understand people complaining or being negative about something they don't have to pay for, and is completely optional to install.

I understand having a bit of humour about it or raising valid points about it if you have installed it, but if it is their kind of thing, let people have some fun with it if they want. 

What I will say is that I just hope they slow down a bit now, with maybe a world update every quarter, with a bit more attention to detail and quality control, and maybe a few more POI's thrown in for good measure.

Likewise, the sim updates need a bit more cooking in the oven before they are released, and hopefully, as they have just announced, they can concentrate on the core issues of the sim that still aren't right, such as the ground handling / tyre friction etc. 

My only criticism on this being that it should have been looked at earlier before cosmetic issues such as clouds etc. which they keep tweaking, because after nearly two years, it seems that every third party aircraft released will need a tweak to the config files now, as they are adding new config parameters to enable the better handling.  My opinion being they should have concentrated purely on how they aircraft behave and sim performance first, and added pretty graphics etc. later - the sim was already very good on release in terms of how it looked - any cosmetic tweaks could have waited until we have a stable sim, including aerodynamically.

Above all this, I still think MSFS is the best flight sim all round even in its present form, and it has the brightest future. 

The amount of addons being released by top names and the quality of them is quite inspiring.  I know there are bugs / missing features in the sim and third party addons being released, but I have never known this to be otherwise, and it is still the best place to be at the moment in terms of flight simulation. 

Two years after release it is still exciting to see the development path ahead of it. 
There are valid complaints, but I still think we have it really good, and we don't always realise it.

On 5/26/2022 at 2:19 PM, Stearmandriver said:

Compared to what's been available in DCS for several years, this is... comical.  Really surprised MSFS wouldn't have something a little more complete than this.  I guess it's (rightly) not a priority though; MSFS is primarily (almost entirely) intended as a civilian sim.  Still... geez.  

It’s a flippin’ Top Gun movie tie in. DCS? Some perspective, please.

3 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

MSFS 2020 is a game.

Welcome to the danger zone.

No, I'd still call it a 'Sim'.  It depends on how you use it which adds to our community numbers.  When usage stops being optional (the sim get's dumbed down) is when I'd ditch it and go with XPlane.  Hopefully by then a deal would have been made with Leminar Research and Google Earth.😐😕

Edited May 27, 20224 yr by Dillon

Only one thing is more fun than landing on a carrier, taking off from a carrier...

6 hours ago, scotchegg said:

It’s a flippin’ Top Gun movie tie in. DCS? Some perspective, please.

Fair.

23 hours ago, aniiran said:

The Dark star word not allowed me off, Like you I couldn't figure out the scramjets, but I pitched down then back up and they turned on?  I don't know.

You need to be at Mach 3 or above for the Scramjet to engage.

 

Just got home from the theater... All I have to say is I am binging the DLC challenges tomorrow followed by having a little fun with the Darkstar.

Edited May 28, 20224 yr by reignman40

Released today - free.

I only tried the takeoff lesson. Did something wrong apparently, don't know what. But I've been taking off and landing the F/A-18 since without any issues. I might try some of the low flying challenges - although I've done quite a bit of low flying on my own already 😁 I'll probably try the carrier landing eventually. In other words, other than the Maverick livery, I've barely used the Top Gun DLC. 

If there was a good tutorial on starting the F/A-18 from cold and dark, I might look into that. 

15 hours ago, dobee51 said:

Only one thing is more fun than landing on a carrier, taking off from a carrier...

yep even  a  747 on one  as well ")

After reading this thread, I'm thankful that I'm not forced to install it, the game takes up a lot of space on HD already as it is.

Edited May 28, 20224 yr by Ixoye

On 5/26/2022 at 12:51 PM, Scottoest said:

All I wanted from this Top Gun thing was hopefully a decent default carrier they could implement in the game for people to use and land on. 

Well, DCS is running a Top Gun promotional bundle of the F18 and the Supercarrier, so if you don't already have them, now's your chance for 30% off. 

And DCS is why I really did not care one whit about how accurate/wonderful the carrier in MSFS is. It's a fun little something to fool with for 10 minutes but honestly if Asobo had spent their time making something as good as the one in DCS I'd have been annoyed because there's plenty of other more pressing work to be done with the sim. 

I will say the low level challenges are kinda fun, mainly because you're low-leveling in places that aren't modeled in DCS. Blasting along underneath Half Dome is pretty neat. 

25 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

After reading this thread, I'm thankful that I'm not forced to install it, the game takes up a lot of space on HD already as it is.

All I’d say is you should make up your own mind rather than opinions in a thread. If it truly isn’t your cup of tea or if space is an issue, fair enough.

As far as depth and difficulty, it is intended to be a fun tie-in but the challenges (particularly the low level flights) take skill to actually hit the mission completion goal of scoring an “A”. And the 30 minute cross-continent Darkstar mission feels like a Chuck Yeager experience if you get into it.

9 hours ago, IanHarrison said:

Released today - free.

Released 3 days ago.

We've been talking about it for the last 8 pages.

Edited May 28, 20224 yr by Tuskin38

On 5/26/2022 at 3:06 PM, Turpentine said:

Exactly. Here comes a free DLC that we can simply opt out of, yet we find ways to complain.

 

 

For me it's more about priorities...

 

Take the TG team and put them on (or add them to the team) addressing, some useful fixes, for the core issues with this sim (and there's a ton still waiting to be addressed after almost 2 years)!