September 15, 20223 yr Well i know we have had this one up before but it does make a differents manually changing LOD Terrain from 100 to 300 at FL150 or greater. FPS wise it is still great above with crisper terrain. The catch is i seems to have issues with changing things in the menu on some aircrafts . The PMDG 737 does not get upset going to the ESC menu. Its the dynamic functional of LOD Terrain we need :-) Thanks Michael Moe (SU9) Edited September 15, 20223 yr by Michael Moe Michael Moe
September 15, 20223 yr Author Or maybe just a FSUIPC shortcut to "hack" the LOD Terrain engine to a "button" step up/step down in 10% interval or by set? Michael Moe Edited September 15, 20223 yr by Michael Moe Michael Moe
September 15, 20223 yr Oh God, it's like people want to turn it into the absolute hellscape that P3D became. A toxic sewage pit of tweaks and complexity. [MSI MPG X870E Carbon | 9800X3D (PBO +200Mhz / -20 Offset) | Corsair 64GB DDR5 (Custom Timings) | RTX 4090 Founders Edition (Undervolted) | WD SNX 850X 4TB + 4TB | Antec Flux Pro]
September 15, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, Sethos said: Oh God, it's like people want to turn it into the absolute hellscape that P3D became. A toxic sewage pit of tweaks and complexity. Sure! Salt and pepper to taste. Nothing wrong with that unless I'm forced to do it with no other choice. -J 13700KF | RTX 4090 @ 1440 | 64GB DDR5 | 2 x 1TB SSDs | 1TB M.2 NVMe
September 15, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, Sethos said: Oh God, it's like people want to turn it into the absolute hellscape that P3D became. A toxic sewage pit of tweaks and complexity. seriously. tweak tweak tweak tweak......starting 3-5 other programs every time I fire up my sim. definitely dont want to bring MSFS back down to that insanity that was P3D
September 15, 20223 yr MSFS is great, no 3rd party tweaking "word not allowed" software needed🙄👍👌 Edited September 15, 20223 yr by Beerz
September 15, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, environmental_ice said: seriously. tweak tweak tweak tweak......starting 3-5 other programs every time I fire up my sim. definitely dont want to bring MSFS back down to that insanity that was P3D It is definitely going that way. Coatl for GSX, AIG TC for AI, an external ATC program to replace that atrocity that's MSFS ATC and we're only getting started. Personally, I don't see the big deal about that! Frankly, I wish I could have some external weather program a-la Activesky or something to replace the camera system like chaseplane. Would only make things a whole lot better rather than imposing the native solutions as the only alternative.
September 15, 20223 yr I also am one who hopes we do not end up back with half a dozen external programs to have a good flight. Coatl is one reason I have avoided GSX, someone needs to figure out how to do this, even if more simply, without an external program. When it released all the echo's of the debates in P3D, of it crashing, failing, interfering with other programs, and crashing the sim immediately came back. Whether true or not, it just ate up so much bandwidth on the forums. Personally, I am willing to forgoes a lot to avoid it, including GSX. Happily for me, the cameral system in the sim is adequate so I would never purchase an ChasePlane and the weather is also basically well done and improving. I can live with the issues, and certainly prefer them to another program. By the end of P3D I was really burned out of all the additional programs, it began eating into the enjoyment of simulation, and I said I would not go back down the route; i will take the limitations of the sim with no external program and configurations. But, of course, for those who don't mind running and configuring them all, I also think that is great. MSFS 2024. Primary Planes: Black Square TBM850, Duke, Baron, Caravan; A2A Comanche; FSReborn Phenom; Fexix A321; PMDG 737-7, 777: Utilities: Active Sky (Passive Mode); BATC, FSLTL.
September 15, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Cognita said: I also am one who hopes we do not end up back with half a dozen external programs to have a good flight. I'm with you, BUT we're already there... I already have a batch file where I start like 4 or 5 programs with MSFS, and then with MSFS exe.xml I have the TDS GTN750 and FSUIPC auto-loading with the sim. It is not ideal -- but what can we do? Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
September 16, 20223 yr The closer you get to the ground the less important Terrain LOD matters. So an algorithm that dynamically changes T-LOD depending on how far above AGL the plane is comes to mind. When you're literally on the ground you really can't see fine detail behind buildings and vegetation, in large part. I notice often it's that last 1000 foot drop or less to touchdown that starts to manifest if I've left T-LOD too high for pending conditions as I may no longer be able to maintain the requisite minimum FPS of 30 by vsync--and it is always worse at arrival versus departure airports. For example if I leave EDDF in say the B78X HD I can easily manage T-LOD of 140 or 150. If I fly a hundred miles and return to EDDF I will need to be at 110 or 100 upon touchdown and taxi to avoid the stuttering that ensues when you can't maintain 30FPS. So I try to anticipate this delta per flight and adjust at the beginning of the flight as I detest stopping flights and changing settings. Again, an algorithm that simply dials back T-LOD the closer you get to the ground could go a long ways to solving this issue. It could very we be this is already happening and we don't see it, but would clearly help add processing headroom for all of the detail in complex terminals including AI traffic. So as I say we just don't know if they've already exploited this optimally, or at all. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
September 16, 20223 yr What actually is the issue right now? I havent flown in weeks and had my first flight yesterday. Crystal clear terrain as far as the eye can see, smooth performance, absolutely free of stutters and overall the best looking flight for quite some time. No external tweaks needed. Not sure what people are comlaining about to be honest. Intel i9-13900K | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master | RTX4090 | 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6000 | Be quiet! Pure Loop 2 FX AiO | Win 11
September 16, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, ThomseN_inc said: What actually is the issue right now? I havent flown in weeks and had my first flight yesterday. Crystal clear terrain as far as the eye can see, smooth performance, absolutely free of stutters and overall the best looking flight for quite some time. No external tweaks needed. Not sure what people are comlaining about to be honest. People complain because not everybody has the same experience as you. Just because you don't see it and aren't subject to a issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist for other users. Kael Oswald 9950X3D/ 64GB DDR5 6200 @ CL30 / Custom Water Loop / RTX 5090 / 3 x 48" LG C4 OLEDs
September 16, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, KL Oo said: People complain because not everybody has the same experience as you. Just because you don't see it and aren't subject to a issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist for other users. I just try to figure out since i dont think that neither my System is special nore is my MSFS different to the one others have. Wondering what external tweaks can achieve that MSFS own settings can't? Edited September 16, 20223 yr by ThomseN_inc Intel i9-13900K | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master | RTX4090 | 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6000 | Be quiet! Pure Loop 2 FX AiO | Win 11
September 16, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, ThomseN_inc said: I just try to figure out since i dont think that neither my System is special nore is my MSFS different to the one others have. Wondering what external tweaks can achieve that MSFS own settings can't? FFTF automatically and dynamically makes the changes...instead of manually making the changes to obtain the same results. By dynamically and automatically making the changes, you do not have to press the ESC key, then go into the general options, then manually adjust the TLOD, then press the ESC key, and then resume your flight. Sure, you can obtain the same results by manually pressing all of these keys, but FFTF does this automatically as you continue to fly... Edited September 16, 20223 yr by flyblueskies PC: AMD 9850X3D, RAM 64GB, Geforce GTX 5090 (32GB), MSFS 2020, MSFS 2024, Pimax Super 50PPD, Quest 3
September 16, 20223 yr Well if you are on the ground, only setting TLOD to 10 gives back frames. 20 or more and it might as well be 100. Seems the rendering pipeline / legacy code still needs optimization or a serious recode (the current scenery engine has the autogen dissappearing / reappearing still, mosdt notable in cities like Tokyo) Above 10,000 feet and all is smooth.
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