1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

Aerosoft is essentially Carenado when it comes to airliners.  They look really good and are fairly fun and most of the standard things work

I get why you write that. However, the "standard things" in an airliner are quite a bit more complex than in your average GA plane. For me, AS airplanes in P3D had enough depth to keep me entertained. I am looking forward to their A330, it might just have the right balance for those intercontinental flights.

9 hours ago, Holdit said:

I think everyone know that MSFS/XP/P3D aren't Level-D, but withing the context of those sims, the meaning is clear enough, especially give that we're discussing it ion a flight sim forum that has forums for all of the above, but no Level-D forum.

We do, in fact, have a Level D forum. https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/137-the-level-d-767-wilco-pic-767-forum/

🙂

5 hours ago, gb09f said:

I had a lot of fun with their Airbus family in P3D. Didn't they have an interactive checklist system too? I wonder if they'll have that with the 330.

Yeah they will. Was a great feature. Even if it is the same as the P3D version I'm hooked.

Edited April 19, 20233 yr by MikeH99

I do like the ideal of "line operation" type of airplane add-on, but the aerosoft's execution on AS330 at least for P3D is not up to that standard IMO, broken VNAV, sometimes broken LNAV, very funky FBW if you have lag a little bit etc etc...

iniSimulation's on the line series and Felis 742 did that better.

I would not recomend to buy Aerosoft-products until they are finished, what is normally the case 3 years after initial release and shortly before the sim you bought it for is abandoned.

 

16 minutes ago, techman said:

I would not recomend to buy Aerosoft-products until they are finished, what is normally the case 3 years after initial release and shortly before the sim you bought it for is abandoned.

 

both the 330 and crj are still not finished now for p3d.

10 hours ago, OzWhitey said:

We do, in fact, have a Level D forum. https://www.avsim.com/forums/forum/137-the-level-d-767-wilco-pic-767-forum/

🙂

Curses! 😁

5 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

both the 330 and crj are still not finished now for p3d.

PMDG 737 ain't finished yet either.

FTFY:

Aerosoft has been working for a very long time on its mildly-anticipated simulation of the Airbus A330 for Microsoft Flight Simulator.

The wide-body airliner is one of the less interesting projects currently in development for the simulator, given that simmers already have the Headwind A330 which is actually pretty good.

The level of depth and detail that will feature in the Aerosoft A330 is still to be determined, but it’s safe to say that it will be kind of lame. Mathijs Kok, the Aerosoft guy, has continuously said that they aim to deliver the experience of an airline pilot’s day-to-day job, rather than simulating the aircraft itself, even though that doesn't actually make any sense because airline pilots spend quite a bit of their day flying aircraft. As a result, they focus more on daily procedures, like opening the flight deck door, rather than rare events like having an autopilot that actually works.

“I simply have no idea what a ‘study level’ aircraft is. Honestly. No idea.", said Mathijs, who presumably has never met another flight simmer, who could have explained this widely-used term to him in like 30 seconds.

"I see it used a lot by marketing departments and YouTubers but I never see a real pilot calling any DLC ‘study level’. Though if they did say that, I wouldn't know what they were talking about anyway, it would just be complete gibberish to me." 

He added that even if they spent another three years on the A330, he would not call it ‘study level’, though it might well be, because how could he tell? Kok goes as far as advising those looking for a simulation of an actual working Airbus to go and spend $12 million on an AFG Level D Airbus simulator, because "Lol, trying to simulate an Airbus on your home computer is only for losers."

Mathijs Kok ... aka the "Thread locker". That's the only thing he manages to do well. 

1 hour ago, OzWhitey said:

they aim to deliver the experience of an airline pilot’s day-to-day job, rather than simulating the aircraft itself, even though that doesn't actually make any sense because airline pilots spend quite a bit of their day flying aircraft.

Brilliant!

It sounds like the A330 will be equivalent to their CRJ.  That being, systems are not deeply modeled, it mostly works, and the stuff that doesn’t won’t be fixed anytime soon.

1 hour ago, Jeeeno said:

Mathijs Kok ... aka the "Thread locker". That's the only thing he manages to do well. 

Yeah they have issues handling forum moderation and i'm being kind here.

As for the A330, it will be a low level simulation like the one we had in P3D. Flyable but hardly accurate, i had some fun flights with it but was never able to "trust" it in full.

3 hours ago, OzWhitey said:

 the experience of an airline pilot’s day-to-day job, rather than simulating the aircraft itself

being a long haul aircraft they will only be doing 3 or 4 trips a month on it... 

4 hours ago, MikeH99 said:

PMDG 737 ain't finished yet either.

the 737 works with ea on, and the lnav works on it,  and it doesnt have a fit if you put the speedbrakes out.

Edited April 19, 20233 yr by fluffyflops