I stopped flight simming because of lack of historical weather in MSFS.

This feature was the one that provided me the most joy previously in P3D with ActiveSky

Being able to fly any route at any time, being able to accelerate the simulator and the weather would follow up.

Now I'm restricted to fly only with the real time, and without sim acceleration. Otherwise weather won't match time of the day. If I accelerate a long flight I may end up with daytime weather during night and vice versa. Imagine you arrive at a location during the middle of the night with typical summer daytime temperatures such as 90 °F and with lots of wind while it should be calm. It's unacceptable.

Never ever used it since FS9 🤷‍♂️

23 minutes ago, cepact said:

I stopped flight simming because of lack of historical weather in MSFS.

This feature was the one that provided me the most joy previously in P3D with ActiveSky

Being able to fly any route at any time, being able to accelerate the simulator and the weather would follow up.

Whats wrong with going back to P3D for this?

38 minutes ago, cepact said:

I stopped flight simming because of lack of historical weather in MSFS.

This feature was the one that provided me the most joy previously in P3D with ActiveSky

Being able to fly any route at any time, being able to accelerate the simulator and the weather would follow up.

Now I'm restricted to fly only with the real time, and without sim acceleration. Otherwise weather won't match time of the day. If I accelerate a long flight I may end up with daytime weather during night and vice versa. Imagine you arrive at a location during the middle of the night with typical summer daytime temperatures such as 90 °F and with lots of wind while it should be calm. It's unacceptable.

XEnviro for MSFS has historical weather. Go check it out.

In many decades of simming I have used it about 5 times at most. 

1 hour ago, cepact said:

I stopped flight simming because of lack of historical weather in MSFS.

This feature was the one that provided me the most joy previously in P3D with ActiveSky

Being able to fly any route at any time, being able to accelerate the simulator and the weather would follow up.

Now I'm restricted to fly only with the real time, and without sim acceleration. Otherwise weather won't match time of the day. If I accelerate a long flight I may end up with daytime weather during night and vice versa. Imagine you arrive at a location during the middle of the night with typical summer daytime temperatures such as 90 °F and with lots of wind while it should be calm. It's unacceptable.

You are absolutely right. I haven given up hope it will ever make it into MSFS2020. Let's hope for MSFS2024.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/historic-weather-as-second-timeline/213758

Part of the problem is that everytime this is brought up here, people who either have no idea of the concept of historical weather at all or completely misunderstand it feel the need to comment and try to belittle the importance of this feature for a serious flight simulator. Thus encouraging MS/Asobo to keep ignoring this.

 

Edited June 20, 20232 yr by RALF9636

Just now, RALF9636 said:

You are absolutely right. I haven given up hope it will ever make it into MSFS2020. Let's hope for MSFS2024.

Part of the problem is that everytime this is brought up here, people who either have no idea of the concept of historical weather at all or completely misunderstand it feel the need to comment and try to belittle the importance of this feature for a serious flight simulator. Thus encouraging MS/Asobo to keep ignoring this.

Historical weather is easy to understand. I understand it, Bobsk8 understands it, as do others, but we don't have any use for it and never will most likely.  And I appreciate for some it matters.  What % of all avid users believe it's "absolutely a must"?  It would be interesting to run a poll on this and see.  

I understand that people want it and absolutely want it for their sake but personally, couldn't find a single reason to use it nor have I ever used it I think. Pilots fly the weather they are given.

The reasons are very clear, aren't they? If you simulate a flight that does not take place at your real time (e.g. you only sim late in the evening, but want to have daylight), the weather will not fit. It might be cold as the night even though it's day in your sim, you might never ever encounter time-specific weather phenomena like thunderstorms (tend to be in the evening) or haze/fog (tend to be in the morning) which does kind of limit the possibilites of the simulator.
E.g. me simming in Europe in the evening I will never ever be able to fly on a hot Australian noon - because it will always be 3 o'clock in the night over there.

Yep, easy to understand...

Don't get Ray started on the subject! 

I’d like it to exist, but to be bluntly honest, when I was using p3d with active sky I never, ever used it.  I get it.  But it’s one of those ocd things,  it doesn’t bother me enough to jump through the hoops in setting it up with the sim and the flight plan, etc…. I just don’t see it as that big a deal,  the sim presents you with weather, and you do what it takes to fly in that weather.  But then again, I am also capable of loading the sim with an Alaska airlines 737 and flying it from Vienna to Beirut.  Some of you I’m guessing are shuddering with horror at the thought.  

No, it is not.  1 in 20 folks might use it.  

I'll almost guarantee that historic weather will not satisfy.

Do you understand you can configure weather?

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Edited June 20, 20232 yr by Sky_Pilot071

I'm all for it, BUT before they implement historical weather, Asobo needs to get the current weather in check first. Live or pre-configured. What I mean by that is better visuals, clouds, atmosphere, etc. The live weather accuracy isn't really bad right now, but the visuals and same old transparent puff "clouds" everywhere is driving me away from being interested in this game anymore. The sky is where we live, and should be represented much better than it is now! 😉

1 hour ago, Fiorentoni said:

time-specific weather phenomena like thunderstorms (tend to be in the evening)

They do? Here in Florida it's mostly in the afternoon. And fog elsewhere often happens at night.

Since no one other than a few folks at Asobo know how the weather system actually works, it's kind of hard for us to know how to fix it. We think in terms of the old-style weather depiction systems in which weather is painted locally by the flight sim software and a local weather app in response to a dataset of downloaded METARs. So all you need have is historic METAR data to generate a display of the "weather".

But I'm guessing that this is not the case for MSFS, which may well create a global weather scenario in the cloud, and it is this depiction which is downloaded to users depending on where they are above the Earth. If that's the case, it may be a very, very long wait for historic weather or a weather API for that matter.