July 9, 20241 yr 59 minutes ago, newtie said: And then there’s always this… https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/online-security/millions-of-discord-users-being-tracked-by-spy-site-what-you-need-to-know So amusing that you seem to have issues with posts on Discord, but not posts here... .. if it's public, it's public.... G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
July 9, 20241 yr 18 hours ago, Beardyman said: Long time ago TFDI had own forum, now i cannot find it on their page, only some Discord c..p. How to follow MD11 development, service packs log etc? Is it so that you have to be active user of 'social stuff' to be able to follow development process? Here's one to check from https://docs.invernyx.com/en/md11/changelog Mikael Leinonen
July 9, 20241 yr I'd rather have a box of fish than Discord. Surely not everybody was kung fu fighting. https://rationalwiki.org
July 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Paul K said: I'd rather have a box of fish than Discord. Cod or Haddock? AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 4.2 32 gig ram, Nvidia RTX3060 12 gig, Intel 760 SSD M2 NVMe 512 gig, M2NVMe 1Tbt (OS) M2NVMe 2Tbt (MSFS) Crucial MX500 SSD (Backup OS). VR Oculus Quest 2 Windows 11 25H2 YouTube:- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96wsF3D_h5GzNNJnuDH3WQ 2k+ Videos & Streams BATC and FSFO FB Group:- https://www.facebook.com/groups/1571953959750565 Flight Sim First Officer (FSFOv6) and SoFly Beta Tester Reality Is For People Who Can't Handle Simulation!
July 9, 20241 yr Author 1 hour ago, MPL said: Here's one to check from https://docs.invernyx.com/en/md11/changelog Appreciate 👍 Artur
July 9, 20241 yr IMHO, Discord resembles a library where everyone comes in and tosses the books into a few giant, unorganized piles. Good luck finding anything specific, especially if you're coming late to the party and that discussion is buried under (or inter-mixed with) weeks/months of assorted chatter. Information anarchy! Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
July 9, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, Bob Scott said: IMHO, Discord resembles a library where everyone comes in and tosses the books into a few giant, unorganized piles. Good luck finding anything specific, especially if you're coming late to the party and that discussion is buried under (or inter-mixed with) weeks/months of assorted chatter. Information anarchy! this is true. In terms of its use for support. The best discord channels are the ones that enable the forum style sections where topics can be better organized. I've always viewed discord and forums to be something that should supplement each other and exist in tandem. Each with their own pro's and con's. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
July 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, micstatic said: this is true. In terms of its use for support. The best discord channels are the ones that enable the forum style sections where topics can be better organized. I've always viewed discord and forums to be something that should supplement each other and exist in tandem. Each with their own pro's and con's. I would agree with that, a quiet Discord can work well for support, although does get frustrating when another conversation pushes yours out of view. Where it really shines though is getting announcements out from the developers about releases, issues & updates. Starting to get used to it, have to say - the same as I'd say for a busy forum - the search function is your friend!.. G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
July 9, 20241 yr Perhaps I am intellectually challenged by Discord, but I fail to see the positive side vs a regular forum: News, a forum can do it, videos, discussions between users or with developers, even files hosting can be accommodated, so why try the answer to everything in such a chaotic way. I tried many times to give it a chance and find something of interest, as Bob said, it's probably there but where? A forum can be structured in an organised way, Discord is a monstrous mess. Bernard CPU = 12900K / GPU = Nvidia 3090 VRAM 24 GB / RAM = 64 GB / SSD = 2 TB 980 PRO PCle 4.0 NVMe™ M.2,
July 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Bob Scott said: IMHO, Discord resembles a library where everyone comes in and tosses the books into a few giant, unorganized piles. Good luck finding anything specific, especially if you're coming late to the party and that discussion is buried under (or inter-mixed with) weeks/months of assorted chatter. Information anarchy! I feel like these comments come from those who have experienced poorly made discord servers or just downright refuse to try and learn what is.. a new program. Discord at it's core is a chat program and thus doesn't inherently replace forums, but when done right it's capabilities are honestly quite remarkable but there's a lot of effort involved. Also not sure why people assume that Forums are suddenly the answer, AVSIM is a well organised forum but you can experience a world of trouble by a poorly organised forum as I've experience a multitude of times. Discord supports forums but if the server administrators don't properly organise, advertise and moderate its usage then yeah. Support issues get bogged up in chat rendering trying to get support pointless. I'd even argue Discord servers require a much more active role in moderation that regular forums to ensure it runs smoothly. Also, Discord's search function is very intuitive for finding very specific information. Just need to take the time to learn it. Edited July 9, 20241 yr by Lucky38i
July 9, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Bernard Ducret said: Perhaps I am intellectually challenged by Discord, but I fail to see the positive side vs a regular forum: News, a forum can do it, videos, discussions between users or with developers, even files hosting can be accommodated, so why try the answer to everything in such a chaotic way. I tried many times to give it a chance and find something of interest, as Bob said, it's probably there but where? A forum can be structured in an organised way, Discord is a monstrous mess. The advantage (from a devs point of view) is that the audience is *much* bigger. On a forum you'll only get a small percentage of the (potential) customers, and they have to register and you have to maintain the forum (which does cost money). But since many people have at least one Discord channel, just adding another one is a small step. So for the devs: A) Easier to access for people -> bigger audience -> more potential customers B) bigger audience -> people helping out each other -> less support costs C) no cost of maintaining a forum -> more money EIDT: Also I have to say (while not being a fan of the communicative format of Discord) Discord is really accessible, you can drag and drop files, images etc. really easily. I usually never post images here on Avsim because I'm too lazy to put them on a hosting site and then put the link here, for example. Edited July 9, 20241 yr by Fiorentoni For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
July 9, 20241 yr Discord is matter of taste of habit! Some people who got accustomed with traditional forum GUI most likely having problems with discord GUI. However, in my opinion discord advantage comes with consolidation of different products in one place! So instead to go to individual forums and check daily for information you seek, with discord you can see all "updates" or "news" from different vendors on one screen! Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
July 9, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Lucky38i said: I feel like these comments come from those who have experienced poorly made discord servers or just downright refuse to try and learn what is.. a new program. Discord at it's core is a chat program and thus doesn't inherently replace forums, but when done right it's capabilities are honestly quite remarkable but there's a lot of effort involved. Also not sure why people assume that Forums are suddenly the answer, AVSIM is a well organised forum but you can experience a world of trouble by a poorly organised forum as I've experience a multitude of times. Discord supports forums but if the server administrators don't properly organise, advertise and moderate its usage then yeah. Support issues get bogged up in chat rendering trying to get support pointless. I'd even argue Discord servers require a much more active role in moderation that regular forums to ensure it runs smoothly. Also, Discord's search function is very intuitive for finding very specific information. Just need to take the time to learn it. An interesting side note: Since Discord has no "threads" or "posts" by default (especially on the more "communicative" channels), as you say it's a chat program, it also does not have derailing threads like we always have here on Avsim. A discussion about RSR on a Discord channel usually very quickly gets submerged by other people asking random stuff or posting images of their cat or whatever. So while Discord is a nightmare for constructive discussions, it also prevents unconstructive discussions 🙂 For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
July 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Bernard Ducret said: Perhaps I am intellectually challenged by Discord, but I fail to see the positive side vs a regular forum: News, a forum can do it, videos, discussions between users or with developers, even files hosting can be accommodated, so why try the answer to everything in such a chaotic way. I tried many times to give it a chance and find something of interest, as Bob said, it's probably there but where? A forum can be structured in an organised way, Discord is a monstrous mess. You have actually answered the question yourself right at the start of your post. "A forum can do it". I can check what's going on with (just off the top of my head) - VoxATC, TFDi, Flysimware, Flight FX, Navigraph, Working Title, Walker, Beyond ATC, SimWorks, FS Reborn, Pilot2ATC, Hotstart, TDS, PMS50 very quickly. If I want then announcements come straight to my phone, if I don't, they won't. A year ago I would have said exactly what you were saying. Now I can see the benefit. G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
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