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Convince me to buy the Fenix expansion?

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For me I always have to be all in on my planes.  So if a developer for example makes a 727 I have to have all the variants available even if I don't fly some of them much.  Same goes for the A320 series.  I also like to simulate airline Ops as close as possible and if an airline has an A321 on the route for reals that is what I select.  I guess I am some sort of weirdo when it comes to Flight Simulation but I think we all are to some degree.

If nothing else even though all the planes are the same series they are still distinctly different in character even on something like the A320 series.  Thanks to the Fly-By-Wire technology they really do all pretty much fly the same.  This is by design so one pilot can be type rated in all variants.  However the A319 tends to handle hot and high situations better and tend to be more sporty.  Depending on airline options the A319 also tends to have the best range of them all.  The A321 especially earlier builds tend to have a lot of restrictions in the operating manual and because of the longer fuselage and higher weights the A321 is a bit hotter on the landing and takeoff speeds.  If you just have one variant the plane tends to get pretty boring quickly.  With multiple versions you can fly them all at different types and enjoy the difference.  

   

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    Even if you don't care about the specific differences between the variants, you should buy it as a ‘thank you’ for the Fenix team. Just think of the significant updates we received for the A320 for fr

1 hour ago, ahsmatt7 said:

No he shouldn’t. With all due respect, this isn’t a charity. He shouldnt spend money as an obligatory thank you unless he feels the same as you. Don’t tell people that. That’s ridiculous. 

Get off your Mattitude. The title is "Convince me to buy the Fenix expansion?", can you read?

Well the A321 gives me 757 vibes(looks wise not perf), so isnt that reason enough?  

 

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1 hour ago, ahsmatt7 said:

No he shouldn’t. With all due respect, this isn’t a charity. He shouldnt spend money as an obligatory thank you unless he feels the same as you. Don’t tell people that. That’s ridiculous. 

I don’t think it’s ridiculous at all.  I spend $20 per month for SayIntentions, and sometimes don’t fly for weeks on end.  I could of course just cancel my sub and restart later, but I’m supporting a product I enjoy and wish to succeed further.  I’ll buy the Felix airbus variants even though I doubt I’ll fly them much, but in part to support the developers.  I don’t consider either of these scenarios a “charity.”  I spend this money in my own self interest to advance the world of flight simulation.

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5 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

slightly higher chance of surviva

slightly is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. 🙂

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What a futile exercise.  I won't try to convince you, and some who do might take the blame afterwards if you don't like it.  You should already have enough information out there and plenty of YouTube reviews.

If you are going into it this deeply, you are probably going to buy it anyway.  The FOMO is strong in flight sim addons!  :biggrin:

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 I tried few flights in A319, but I'm back to PMDG 777. I like to see "cell"   reflected in my shiny WX radar on NAV display. I also enjoy changing altitude on MCP panel with my Honeycomb Bravo knob. Finally, I dig CRM and love when  my AI co-pilot handle ATC calls. Other than that Fenix has a great expansion!

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1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

I tried few flights in A319, but I'm back to PMDG 777. I like to see "cell"   reflected in my shiny WX radar on NAV display. I also enjoy changing altitude on MCP panel with my Honeycomb Bravo knob. Finally, I dig CRM and love when  my AI co-pilot handle ATC calls. Other than that Fenix has a great expansion!

Yea, I have to say there are some real benefits to an aircraft designed to operating within the sim; I miss these things too. Still enjoying the FENIX, have done 4 flights these past two days, but I wish it was more fully integrated like PMDG have done.

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2 minutes ago, Cognita said:

Yea, I have to say there are some real benefits to an aircraft designed to operating within the sim; I miss these things too. Still enjoying the FENIX, have done 4 flights these past two days, but I wish it was more fully integrated like PMDG have done.

At some point of time Fenix was ahead of many developers with great intuitive  EFB and all MDCU extra features. However, I must say, now I'm looking forward to the next major update for TFDi  MD-11 which suppose to bring all those stuff that PMDG 777 has. In my opinion PMDG 777 is the new standard for airliners at the moment ! At the same time a healthy competition is always a great way to move sim forward. So I would love to see other developer surprise us with  stepping up the game!

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8 hours ago, outermarker said:

Even if you don't care about the specific differences between the variants, you should buy it as a ‘thank you’ for the Fenix team. Just think of the significant updates we received for the A320 for free. It's basically a completely different and rebuilt add-on than what came with the initial release. Not to mention the Sharklet expansion that is still to come, also for free. They've invested heavily into the A320, and if you ask me, they deserve all the support in the world.

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1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

In my opinion PMDG 777 is the new standard for airliners at the moment

Yes, I basically agree. The 777 was a polished release and has been very enjoyable to fly. The 737 was quite shaky and to this day I am quite underwhelmed by it, but it seems PMDG has been learning along the way and figured a good deal of stuff out, I am quite pleased with that aircraft. Looking more forward to the 747 now.

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More than the fact of matching the flights with the right models, expecting a different flight experience with the different members of the A-32 family or any of the other reasons that users seek to justify their purchase; personally I think that the best excuse to make the upgrade in Fenix A320 is the total support to the developer both economically and emotionally and in this way encourage the continuous improvement of the product. It's just my opinion.

I have a question of my own on the Fenix range as when it comes to a modern jet I mainly fly the 737 and 777 and there is a very pragmatic reason for this as within the sim I find the Airbus displays to be hard to read in comparison, the fonts are so thin and tiny that I always find myself having to zoom in to read them, I can never find that sweet spot compared to 737 and 777 where I can definitely read the screens while maintaining what I consider a natural seating position.

Not sure how the fenix compares to the FBW and inibuilds 320's where I always find myself annoyed with those displays after a while because of that zoom in/out necessity.  I assume that's just the reality of those displays and simulated as such so I guess it is what it is but I'm still curious to hear people's thoughts on this, maybe it's purely a me problem. 😵

 

12 hours ago, Tony P said:

Love the A320 but other than different sizes - is there anything that stands out to why I should purchase this?

Thx

Why would you trust someone else to convince you to buy something?
seems ridiculous.

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