I'm an Airbus fanatic so I'll get the CEO and for sure the NEO. Hopefully someone will do a Streamdeck profile for it. 

Edited November 30, 20241 yr by B777ER

19 minutes ago, Luis Hernandez said:

I thought I was the only one thinking this way. Hope these birds are not as framerate-hungry as the P3D ones.

The minimum VRAM required is apparently 8GB, which indicates to me that it needs more resources to run than other high fidelity airliners in MSFS. That being the case, I would be surprised if the performance matches the Fenix version.

On a side note, a minimum of 8GB VRAM would rule me out

Edited November 30, 20241 yr by Christopher Low

18 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

What exactly are the differences you saw vis-a-vis "immersion", I wonder? Fenix had "borrowed" lots of what you might consider immersion features from the FSL bus.

yeah I get it.  I was a diehard FSL bus guy.  I bought skalarki equipment primarily out of that.  To me the overall flying of the fenix seems more enjoyable.  The visuals, the sounds.  Some people dismiss visuals (VC and exterior), but to me they are very important.  I also find the user experience with the Ipad, GSX integration, simbrief integration better.  Even if FSL was in fact a pioneer in that space.  

13 minutes ago, micstatic said:

yeah I get it.  I was a diehard FSL bus guy.  I bought skalarki equipment primarily out of that.  To me the overall flying of the fenix seems more enjoyable.  The visuals, the sounds.  Some people dismiss visuals (VC and exterior), but to me they are very important.  I also find the user experience with the Ipad, GSX integration, simbrief integration better.  Even if FSL was in fact a pioneer in that space.  

FSL was unfortunately never known for good visuals, so let's see what they were able to do with the MSFS engine in regards to that

Id buy a NEO LR XLR from FSL but I ain’t buying another CEO to get it and I highly doubt maybe people would. 

1 hour ago, Wise87 said:

I didn't say it was, I said IF.  As of this morning several more users have asked the question on the NEO and FSLabs has yet to clarify except to state it will be a free upgrade for 2024. I guess will wait and see at this point. 

The line you posted could also mean that if I purchase the NEO after the release then I pay full price. No where does it say if it's a standalone or expansion. Why should I have to purchase the CEO when I have the Fenix just so I can get a discount on the NEO? It's such a simple question to clarify. 

I am sorry but there are just too many people unwilling to read what is actually written and start wild speculations - a social network well known favorite sport -  One can see that also on the FSL forum where questions were being asked « for clarification » like quoting the line mentioning the fact that each circuit breakers are actually working, and then ask in the same breath if ALL were really working!…

If you buy the ceo before the neo release you have the discount, if you buy the ceo after the release of the neo you have no discount. If you don't buy the ceo, you get no discount for the Neo.

11 minutes ago, Bernard Ducret said:

If you buy the ceo before the neo release you have the discount, if you buy the ceo after the release of the neo you have no discount. If you don't buy the ceo, you get no discount for the Neo.

Everyone gets that point. There is no confusion about the discount. But seeing your sure it's a standalone which is the question people are asking then will move on from here and wait for the release of the Standalone NEO.  

Edited November 30, 20241 yr by Wise87

17 minutes ago, Wise87 said:

Everyone gets that point. There is no confusion about the discount. But seeing your sure it's a standalone which is the question people are asking then will move on from here and wait for the release of the Standalone NEO.  

They cannot give a discount (or no discount) for buying the CEO, if you'd have to buy the CEO anyway to get the NEO.

They could have made that a bit more clear though.

As A321 NEO will be standalone product - I'll probably wait for A321 neo which is great. Originally I thought they were going old P3D route of having to buy A321 CEO first as base package, Apparently they are now going to be doing what PMDG does for their individual planes. No more base packages - You can buy what you need.  

Definitely looking forward to A321 Neo!

Need to take a moment to be at least happy that the last remaining hifi aircraft developer FSL is at least finally in the MSFS ecosystem, and near exclusively for it. A lot of pre-MSFS simmers who held up FSL as the standard for judging a sim's viability for high fidelity flying and pointed at FSL's absence as a reason to not take MSFS (or its SDK) seriously I guess turned out to be wrong 🙂. Great that at least they're doing the A321 NEO rather than just the CEO, I'll be holding out for their Concorde.
 

Why are some people stating that the graphics are disappointing? I have just looked at multiple screenshots of the A321 NEO over on the FSElite site, and the textures and models look excellent Have FSLabs found a way to identify the "malware moaners", and inserting a "test.exe" onto their PCs to make the graphics look word not allowed?

Edited November 30, 20241 yr by Christopher Low

3 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

Need to take a moment to be at least happy that the last remaining hifi aircraft developer FSL is at least finally in the MSFS ecosystem, and near exclusively for it. A lot of pre-MSFS simmers who held up FSL as the standard for judging a sim's viability for high fidelity flying and pointed at FSL's absence as a reason to not take MSFS (or its SDK) seriously I guess turned out to be wrong 🙂. Great that at least they're doing the A321 NEO rather than just the CEO, I'll be holding out for their Concorde.
 

Although there do appear to be some still in that camp, I thought the overall argument was that MSFS wasn't ready at that time. Not that it wouldn't ever be. Either way, like you, I'm glad FSL is finally arriving! The competition will be good and I'm looking forward to their NEO. I'm mostly looking forward to their A330 but we know how long they take so who knows when that will arrive lol.

13 hours ago, Skytatoo said:

Fully agree on this. The Fslabs were in a hot seat on Prepar3d, but totally missed the boat in MSFS. Fenix stepped in and boy did they take over the Airbus crowds.

I don't think the Fslabs can compete with this guys, the bar is set too high IMO.

Yes to the first.

No to the second.

FSL can compete on-par, of that I have no doubt.

The question is will whatever they bring to the sim be enough to get Airbus fans to pay for yet-another-Airbus??

6 hours ago, micstatic said:

While I'm sure the people who are obsessive about systems and failures prefer FSL.  I still think the overall immersion of fenix makes it far more enjoyable for me.  I'm pretty intrigued by the NEO however from FSL as I would like to replace the FBW.  

Good point.

BUT in fairness to FSL, we don't yet know what level of immersion they'll bring to MSFS.

There's only so much that can be done to immerse in P3D these days, regardless of the dev.

I wonder who FSL is using for their sounds? If Boris, that’s a huge win for them.