11 hours ago, MikeH99 said:

Not a me problem something on the other end I'll just wait a day or try later tonight.

Sounds very much like the issue is on your end. Might be a driver issue with your wifi/ethernet - when a lot of data flows through maybe it's getting somehow disabled. 

Was looking forward to this update, but finding it pretty disappointing. No significant improvements leaping out at me. Still got the LOD issues and the PG blobs are still there, and really, those were the only two things bugging me.

Still the sim of choice for me, still love the look and the lighting and all the other visuals, but I will continue to avoid major airports and stick to the back-strips for now.

Oh, and the whole "my library" thing is still a gawdforsaken mess. Three months in and I still can't use most of my 2020 planes, although I do seem to have a pilot in my Freedom Fox now.

29 minutes ago, andy1252 said:

Was looking forward to this update, but finding it pretty disappointing. No significant improvements leaping out at me.

 

My personal experience is the opposite. 2 annoying problems solved and I now enjoy MSFS2024 more then ever.

Just noticed the tail number on the HJET along with pilots.  SWEET!

dd

I went back to MSFS 2020 in December and patiently waited until SU1 was released. However, I still can't get past some very basic things that annoy me immensely about MSFS 2024:

1. It always starts in full screen mode, even if I changed it in settings. Why?

2. The intro video makes me nervous (I can't handle the acrobatic stuff) and there is no option to not display it. Why oh why?

3. In MSFS 2020 I can easily reset the cockpit view to be centered. In 2024 I couldn't figure out how to do that. "Reset cockpit view" resets it in about the same direction I am looking.

At least 2024 is now looking better than 2020 on my system. If anyone can help me with any of the three points, that would be wonderful. If I cannot resolve these, I will stick with 2020.

Peter

2 hours ago, qqwertz said:

I went back to MSFS 2020 in December and patiently waited until SU1 was released. However, I still can't get past some very basic things that annoy me immensely about MSFS 2024:

1. It always starts in full screen mode, even if I changed it in settings. Why?

2. The intro video makes me nervous (I can't handle the acrobatic stuff) and there is no option to not display it. Why oh why?

3. In MSFS 2020 I can easily reset the cockpit view to be centered. In 2024 I couldn't figure out how to do that. "Reset cockpit view" resets it in about the same direction I am looking.

At least 2024 is now looking better than 2020 on my system. If anyone can help me with any of the three points, that would be wonderful. If I cannot resolve these, I will stick with 2020.

Peter

I will send you a pm on start screen

Try pressing ALT+ENTER before you shut down 2024 - it may remember that on next start - I haven't tested it 

What's the big deal just press press ALT+ENTER once sim is loaded 

Edited March 9, 20251 yr by Richard Sennett

6 hours ago, Richard Sennett said:

What's the big deal just press press ALT+ENTER once sim is loade

pressing 2 keys rather than one 🙂

17 hours ago, bluescast said:

Concerning internet drop-outs, I asked an AI to provide context. I  specifically asked generically when it comes to Cloud based services as these conditions can happen and its not necessarily an issue on your end but how MSFS2024 is pushing data and its relationship with different ISP's. 

Here are the results and not sure this will help...

"What cloud access scenarios would cause home internet cache to fill up and disconnect your internet?"

When your home internet cache fills up and causes disconnections, it’s typically tied to how devices or applications interact with cloud services. Here are some cloud access scenarios that could lead to this issue:

 

 

May I ask which AI did you ask this question? Maybe it's your prompt that's the problem, because I don't even know what you mean by "internet cache."  The problem is compounded further by whatever AI you are asking, it responds with the answer, "When your home internet cache fills up and causes disconnection ...", thereby legitimizing the term "internet cache."

So I have never heard of the term "internet cache," but if you are referring to MikeH99's comments, he said he flushed his DNS cache. The DNS cache is an actual thing with Windows.  The DNS cache in Windows simply caches the Domain Name to IP address conversion.  As you may know, a Domain Name on the internet converts to an IP address. Here is a good diagram that illustrates how the Windows DNS cache requests an  IP address from the DNS server:

The diagram and the full explanation of how DNS cache works can be read at: https://world.siteground.com/kb/clear-dns-cache-in-windows/#:~:text=The DNS cache is a,DNS lookup for the domain.  I highly recommend reading this webpage, rather than asking AI, because this webpage is technically accurate, whereas I am dubious about the answer that the AI gave to you.

At the end of the day, the internet runs on TCP/IP, and TCP/IP packets is how data/information is sent across the internet.  If MSFS 2024 can cause your computer to stop receiving/sending TCP/IP packets for all applications (ie. even Chrome and Firefox stop receiving packets, not just MSFS 2024), there is probably something very wrong with your computer, router, or ISP.

As for the AI's answer, I have no idea why it answered with, "When your home internet cache fills up and causes disconnection ...".  A normal technical person would ask you what you mean by "internet cache" first, because they don't understand the terminology you use.  Perhaps you mean DNS cache, perhaps you mean browser cache, perhaps you mean web cache, etc.

I use AI myself, but I am always skeptical of the answer it provides, and I prefer AI programs that list the sources of where they obtained the answers.  In this specific case, the AI should not be legitimizing the term "internet cache" because I don't think that's really a thing. If the AI were better, it probably should have explained to you that it doesn't recognize the term "internet cache" because that's not really a technical term used in the IT industry, and then it should have presented you with different types of caches related to the internet, such as DNS cache, browser cache, web cache, etc.

Edited March 9, 20251 yr by abrams_tank

9 hours ago, Richard Sennett said:

I will send you a pm on start screen

What's the big deal just press press ALT+ENTER once sim is loaded 

Thanks for the PM, Richard.

None of my points are really big deals, although the problem with recentering is bad since I might get disoriented in a stressful situation. However, all three together make me dislike 2024. Imagine me deciding to give 2024 another try. Then it first shows me that awful video, hiding anything else behind it for 5 minutes. Yes, I can hit the Windows button to open other windows and maximize another window to not see the fast motions, but it affects my love for the sim. Then I realize that they still didn't fix that full screen issue, which does the same. Finally, when I am still unable to fix my recentering issue, I have lost the interest to fly in MSFS 2024 and shut down the sim. 

I guess I am not resilient enough, and MSFS 2020 still looks great and works very well for me.

12 hours ago, qqwertz said:

.....In MSFS 2020 I can easily reset the cockpit view to be centered. In 2024 I couldn't figure out how to do that. "Reset cockpit view" resets it in about the same direction I am looking.

That is a requirement for me. If I am not able to reset the cockpit view to centre forward, then I will not be switching to MSFS 2024. Basic stuff like that really should be sorted out before releasing the product is even considered.

3 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

At the end of the day, the internet runs on TCP/IP, and TCP/IP packets is how data/information is sent across the internet. 

 

Slight correction to this, as I can't edit my post anymore. The internet runs on more than the TCP/IP protocol. Refer to the answer from David Spigelman here:

Quote

No. Some uses TCP. Some uses UDP. Some uses ICMP. There are even other protocols used. Reasons? Different services use different protocols. Are all television ads across the world in English? Of course not - it depends on whom you’re trying to reach. Well don’t try to reach a webserver with UDP because the HTTP/HTTPS servers don’t speak UDP. They speak TCP.

 

20 hours ago, bluescast said:

"How does MSFS 2024 handle DNS servers to resolve domains?"

- There’s no evidence that MSFS 2024 hardcodes or specifies its own DNS servers. Unlike some online games that might embed fallback IPs or custom DNS settings, MSFS 2024 relies on your system’s defaults.
 

Now I am curious which AI you are using. The AI chatbots out there like ChatGPT, Claude Sonnet, Deepseek, etc, are typically trained on a set of data from the internet by a specific date.  That's why if you ask certain versions ChatGpt or other AI chatbots about what significant world events happened in the first week of March of 2025, it might not know because the set of internet data that it was trained on could be from 2024, 2023, etc, even if that version of the AI chatbot was released in 2025.

MSFS 2024 was released in November of 2024.  It has been released for over 3.5 months but not quite 4 months yet.  I like how this AI is so bold and makes the claim above.  If it was trained on a data set of the internet before MSFS 2024 was released, how would it know the above bolded and underlined statement? I agree with the general sentiment of the AI response, but this is like me making a definitive statement in October of 2024, before MSFS 2024 was released in November of 2024.  I can make an educated guess in October of 2024 of the specifics of MSFS 2024, but that's an educated guess in the end as MSFS 2024 had not been released yet, so the details of how it exactly works is probably not known.  If the AI you are using wasn't trained on an internet data set that came after November 19 of 2024, it probably should have mentioned that. But I don't see anywhere in the response where the AI clarifies the date of the internet data set that it was trained on.

That's why I don't use AI as a reference for expertise without further fact checking. I will ask the AI chatbot questions, and then crosscheck (ie. maybe use Google) to see if the information it generates is accurate.  But here, I am highly concerned that the AI is making such a bold statement, especially if the internet data set that it was trained on, is before the release of MSFS 2024.

Edited March 9, 20251 yr by abrams_tank

37 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

That is a requirement for me. If I am not able to reset the cockpit view to centre forward, then I will not be switching to MSFS 2024. Basic stuff like that really should be sorted out before releasing the product is even considered.

It does work. I use this frequently and mapped my middle mouse button to this. Works like a Charme

30 minutes ago, DAD said:

It does work. I use this frequently and mapped my middle mouse button to this. Works like a Charme

It was nice to hear that this wasn't a real problem.

56 minutes ago, DAD said:

It does work. I use this frequently and mapped my middle mouse button to this. Works like a Charme

I assume that the keyboard can also be used? I have always used DEL on the right side keypad for this.

Edited March 9, 20251 yr by Christopher Low