3 hours ago, Funky D said:

Marketplace products aren't allowed to call external programs via Simconnect, so they would not be affected.

Afraid that is incorrect.

SimConnect is an API, it does not call out, it is being called from the outside. Or from the inside for that matter, like the WASM modules in certain aircraft do. PMDG for example has a large middleware module based on SimConnect, working both on PC and XBox.

What you probably mean is the fact that you can't run external programs on the XBox just like that. So you can't use external programmatic addons on the XBox either, which is why they are not on the Marketplace.

Edited June 26, 2025Jun 26 by Lorby_SI

2 hours ago, Lorby_SI said:

Afraid that is incorrect.

SimConnect is an API, it does not call out, it is being called from the outside. Or from the inside for that matter, like the WASM modules in certain aircraft do. PMDG for example has a large middleware module based on SimConnect, working both on PC and XBox.

What you probably mean is the fact that you can't run external programs on the XBox just like that. So you can't use external programmatic addons on the XBox either, which is why they are not on the Marketplace.

However if you can convert your external program to run within a WASM module then you're good to go 🙂

1 hour ago, Lorby_SI said:

What you probably mean is the fact that you can't run external programs on the XBox just like that. So you can't use external programmatic addons on the XBox either, which is why they are not on the Marketplace.

Thank you for the correction, this is indeed what I meant. I was jumping to conclusions due to all the finger pointing at Simconnet, but your previous post seems to indicate this isn't directly a Simconnect issue.

 

I've seen two posts stating the PMDG 777's work in the latest beta, so I still maintain that this doesn't affect marketplace addons due to the restrictions Asobo/MS put on running external programs, unless someone else can confirm otherwise.

And to address all the "ASOBO TEST MORE!" comments in this thread, how exactly is Asobo supposed to choose which peripherals and non-marketplace addons to test? I remember times in the past when an SU broke only FSUIPC and FSUIPC had to update their software to work with the new SU. To get hypothetical, what if the CTD's are due to a code issue in the 3rd party programs, something that the sim conveniently ignored in the past? What if a performance improvement is causing these external programs to break, requiring an update for all of them? Would you rather take that performance improvement or bend backwards for compatibility's sake? At what point is it a sim issue vs 3rd party issue?

At the end of the day, this is why the community asked for betas and why we have them: to test thousands of configurations in a short amount of time and hope people provide helpful information when things don't work as expected. I'm sure some developers who are affected by CTD's are already checking their addons to make sure the problem isn't on their end.

If you have nothing constructive to offer when the software you are voluntarily testing doesn't work as expected, you shouldn't be testing that software. Asobo has stated this time and time again.

curious

My experience is FSUIPC is the culprit  on my system.  Latest version all loaded and CTD.  Uninstall with all of my add-on and 15.10.0 runs nicely.

Last programme I took out this morning was the FSUIPC and now it works great.

12 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

so did I.

How do you revert back?

1 hour ago, trevs said:

Last programme I took out this morning was the FSUIPC and now it works great.

How do take it out?

Uninstall

13 minutes ago, diajohn said:

Uninstall

Ok well I was thinking it was something else...

7 hours ago, Funky D said:

At the end of the day, this is why the community asked for betas and why we have them: to test thousands of configurations in a short amount of time and hope people provide helpful information when things don't work as expected. I'm sure some developers who are affected by CTD's are already checking their addons to make sure the problem isn't on their end.

Yes that's all well and good and what the community testers should be doing, but also alongside instructions from Asobo in what to specifically test from their end which is what they don't give us.

It also doesn't help, as previously mentioned, when betas are released that break various items in the base game itself. That's what is happening far far too often and has been, again as mentioned, for four years now. They don't have a clue on how to prepare updates for users correctly, hence we get updates on a Friday that break the Sim in various ways preventing users from testing properly over the weekend when they're most likely to help.

It's happening clear as day, so whilst you are current here, there's also a massive amount of improvement still to come from Asobo on giving us betas that can actually be tested properly in the first place.

Edited June 27, 2025Jun 27 by MarcG

Have they pulled it? I left the beta and now have no option to rejoin it.

37 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Have they pulled it? I left the beta and now have no option to rejoin it.

I still have it available.

31 minutes ago, Rob G said:

I still have it available.

Ah! There's a new sign up process for SU3 by the look of it.

9 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

curious

So I'm curious too....

Well Inibuilds they advise to go back to SU2, since the latest beta has problem with WASM compiled aircraft.