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BEWARE! Windows Update KB5063878 and SSD Problem!

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A new problem arose, different than reported.

 

 

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  • I am glad that I am not alone on this matter. It seems as if people are unable to read when they leave school, everything has to be shown on a time consuming video. I much prefer a written summar

  • Glad that I am still holding onto Windows 10.

  • As soon as I saw these articles popping up, I did full backups on my flight sim computers.  I recommend the same for anyone not wanting to potentially face doing a full system rebuild. I have a n

Thanks that all my drives are Samsung.

We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically.
 
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Glad that I am still holding onto Windows 10.

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Thanks for the tip. My computer was out of service for months. It has windows 10, and it's going to stay that way for a while. My machine is going to the shop for an evaluation[better graphics card etc] Please keep us posted with any changes.   Thanks again.

My drives are all Samsung and have had no noticeable problems.....yet.

 

Bill W

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Samsung drives don't use Phison controllers. They have their own, proprietary tech.

We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically.
 
Devons rig
Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB /  1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe /  1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
6 hours ago, HiFlyer said:

Samsung drives don't use Phison controllers. They have their own, proprietary tech.

 

I know. Hence why I was suprised when Sue said she had the exact same symptoms. 

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4 hours ago, martin-w said:

I know. Hence why I was suprised when Sue said she had the exact same symptoms. 

That assumes that every SSD failure is now caused by this, which clearly isn't the case.

Luke Kolin

I make simFDR, the most advanced flight data recorder for FSX, Prepar3D and X-Plane.

Been building and servicing computers for 20 years. I've never had 2 drives go south simultaneously before. Nor have I had one simply disappear, and refuse to format. Since my meltdown came right after my update...

As soon as I saw these articles popping up, I did full backups on my flight sim computers.  I recommend the same for anyone not wanting to potentially face doing a full system rebuild.

I have a number of Crucial T705/T700 SSDs that use the most recent Phison 5026-E26 controller.  After uninstalling the KB 5063878 security update, I did high-speed ~200GB transfers to them without issue.

No problems also doing similar large test writes to my non-Phison controlled Samsung 990 Pro and WD SN850X SSDs.  I have a mix of drives on both Intel Z790 and AMD X670E based boards.

One thing i see missing is discussion of hardware beyond the SSD itself--specifically the CPU/supporting chipset.  Is this happening on Intel and/or AMD boards, specific chipset or CPU generations, etc??

The fact that JayZ replicated it (demonstrated on video) throws a big shadow on the official MS denial.

 

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
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I really wish the OP had included a brief description of the problem instead of me having to watch a 16 minute video.

Anyone care to summarise the problem and what kit is affected?

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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Right. I’ve watched it but have no idea if my Crucial T700 4Tb drive is one of those affected.

Did anyone hear him say he’s reported it to Microsoft because I didn’t. They’d better sort this mess out soon or they’ll probably face serious consequences.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

7 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

 having to watch a 16 minute video

I am glad that I am not alone on this matter. It seems as if people are unable to read when they leave school, everything has to be shown on a time consuming video.

I much prefer a written summary: easier to understand and very much easier to go back, to go over a point again.

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