13 hours ago, micstatic said:

just want to confirm something.  I use addon linker to manage my community folder.  Assume if I make no changes then this new update will not change anything?  IE, if I don't use this new folder then nothing will change.  I also don't really use marketplace for anything if that matters.  

That was my very first question. 😁

1 minute ago, Sonosusto said:

That was my very first question. 😁

Yes it worked fine for me. I didn’t make any changes and things loaded fine (I only have 2024 installed). The only addon not working for me is the simbrief app for the EFB. It just doesn’t show up, but the navigraph and fenix apps both work as normal. 

GSX can't seem to read jetway data anymore, not sure if that's related to the community folder changes or something else.

Edited September 10, 2025Sep 10 by Tuskin38

And now after flying the fenix for a while my controller bindings are wonky. I can't figure out how to do reverse thrust. I see that "cut" is now previous indent but nothing is working. Wow. Patience is zero. If anyone can explain it to me like I am 5 that would be great. 

47 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

GSX can't seem to read jetway data anymore, not sure if that's related to the community folder changes or something else.

Yes, I got the same (tried iniBuilds EGLL and Pyreegue EGPH).
Stair only stands (ORBX YMML) seemed to be OK (no GSX errors reported).

I tried activating the jetway from the Fenix EFB but that didnt seem to work either.


The other thing I noticed at EGLL was that for the first time, BATC didnt seem to be able to create any static traffic (correct SB FP was loaded), but at EGPH and YMML, had no problems creating traffic.

Edited September 10, 2025Sep 10 by c912039

They added new small autogen power line models. 

 

This is what they looked like in SU3 and before

 

New high voltage models too

SU4

SU3

Edited September 10, 2025Sep 10 by Tuskin38

6 hours ago, Lucky38i said:

It just seems odd to be to opt-into a beta program and expect a seamless experience. Beta periods by general defintion is for.. bug fixing.

Exactly. But we go through this every time a beta is released. 

Folks who want to keep using all of their addons should stick with the stable release versions. 

Case closed. 

2 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

they seem to have made shadows switch to lower quality

Ugh, was afraid that would happen as part of the “optimization”  … hopefully there is an option to overcome it?

Edited September 10, 2025Sep 10 by SayAgain

7 hours ago, Vitold69 said:

I can't load the plane even. Sim hangs during loading

Thanks for letting me know Vito.

1 hour ago, Ricardo41 said:

Exactly. But we go through this every time a beta is released. 

Folks who want to keep using all of their addons should stick with the stable release versions. 

Case closed. 

Yes true. Half dont work but its nice flying the fenix with better performance. 

5 hours ago, SayAgain said:

The problem here is that most developers will NOT do a lot of work on their products to make them work with Beta updates because they are Beta and a lot can change between each beta update and then final Release (aka not Beta).

Just not enough development resources to re-test everything on each beta update, hence waiting for final release to start work on testing one’s product.  Can be pretty expensive to do a lot of adjustments on early Beta updates only to have to undo them in later Beta updates because of impacting changes.

You see that sentiment reiterated on numerous add-on content developer’s public websites and non-public. 

Exactly this. I know that PMDG (for example) will not release an update to their existing fleet of aircraft just to make them work with an MSFS beta. Nor should they. The goalposts keep moving with each new beta update. It is my understanding that some (but not all) WASM aircraft have been broken by this initial release of SU4 beta.

The PMDG 777s will not activate, and I believe a similar problem exists with the IFly 737Max. But other aircraft that use WASM (like the Fenix) appear to be working. The release notes for the initial SU4 beta state that Asobo made changes to WASM. Perhaps those changes are affecting the activation code that PMDG and IFly are currently using - or maybe it is a bug on Asobo’s side.

I seem to recall that a similar activation problem (affecting PMDG specifically) cropped up in the early SU3 beta builds, that Asobo was able to fix on their end without PMDG having to make any changes to their existing released aircraft. 

On the other hand, if the changes that Asobo made to WASM will require that PMDG’s activation code has to be permanently changed to be compatible with the latest SDK, then I wouldn’t expect them to make their aircraft SU4-compatible until SU4 is officially released. 

Every dev that chooses to work on the MSFS platform knows they're going to be working with a constantly evolving beast. Yes, it's more work but the benefit if having access to the biggest market in the flight sim space. It is what it is.

Went looking and found this

Navigraph Dispatch not showing EFB in MSFS2024 SU4 beta

5 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

GSX can't seem to read jetway data anymore, not sure if that's related to the community folder changes or something else.

It relates to the fact that you don't read my messages.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/679526-su-4-beta/page/8/#findComment-5571911

7 hours ago, monica6211 said:

My mouse is working just fine in VR, Reverb G2, Oasis driver

It appears to be strangely random, other people using that oasis driver with their G2 can't see the mouse either. Seems to be a VR controller issue to me, hope they get it fixed soon either way as the games unusable now.

Edited September 10, 2025Sep 10 by MarcG