4 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Exactly. But we go through this every time a beta is released. 

Folks who want to keep using all of their addons should stick with the stable release versions. 

Case closed. 

I was basically using su3 day 1 with hundreds of addons.  Mostly. But I understand sometimes fixes cause initial problems. I am content waiting 

12 minutes ago, micstatic said:

I was basically using su3 day 1 with hundreds of addons.  Mostly. But I understand sometimes fixes cause initial problems. I am content waiting 

Betas make the sim fun and add interest as stuff gets fixed up. Thats why so many people join up. It’s not to help. Would people actually prefer perfection from day one? Or do they keep more engaged when there is a process of gradual improvement with hiccups to moan about along the way.

Edited September 10, 2025Sep 10 by jarmstro

I'm getting exteneral lights stuck on in the Fenix, anyone else?

Yes, same here, Rick.
The maintenance guys are not going to be happy.
It's fortunate that today LEDs cost less than high-intensity halogens !! ☺️

1 hour ago, rick celik said:

I'm getting exteneral lights stuck on in the Fenix, anyone else?

F.y.i. same with the COWS DA40 XLS.

 

23 minutes ago, David Roch said:

Yes, same here, Rick.
The maintenance guys are not going to be happy.
It's fortunate that today LEDs cost less than high-intensity halogens !! &nbsp☺️

😂 however the ground crew and passengers in the terminals are cursing for sure.

Edited September 10, 2025Sep 10 by rick celik

On 9/9/2025 at 9:49 AM, micstatic said:

Anybody tried the Maddog yet?

 A follow up to this,

Attempted to do a flight, for context I use GSX refueling and loading synched with the maddog.

Doing a simbrief import on the W&B page inthe EFB causes a reproducible WASM crash, always. So for that, IMO the maddog is currently unflyable in SU4 Beta. 

I don't believe having GSX sync enabled has any effect on this, I could be wrong I didn't test, but this WASM crash happens even without turning on any services in GSX. A shame but expected.

17 hours ago, MarcG said:

The Ugly;
The mouse doesn't work in VR #FacePalm can't really do much so will have to park the beta until this obvious issue is fixed.

Looking at the MSFS forum, disabling tracking controllers in the VD Streaming setting resolved this (which worked for me). Though I don't know if you use VD or not.

Edited September 10, 2025Sep 10 by Lucky38i

58 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

Looking at the MSFS forum, disabling tracking controllers in the VD Streaming setting resolved this (which worked for me). Though I don't know if you use VD or not.

I don't no, even disabling controllers regardless doesn't work. I'm not interested in workarounds anyway, it's upto Asobo to fix.

5 hours ago, micstatic said:

I was basically using su3 day 1 with hundreds of addons.  Mostly. But I understand sometimes fixes cause initial problems. I am content waiting 

If many WASM aircraft have been broken in this first beta build of SU4 it might well be a bug on Asobo's side to fix in consequent beta builds before general release (rather than a change that aircraft devs are required to react to). I assume as soon as an SU beta opens up, the 3rd party devs will definitely onboard and assess the situation, keep an eye on things, have direct back & forth with Asobo via established channels, etc. Although it makes complete sense for 3rd party devs to not release any aircraft fixes *during* an MSFS SU beta (though there have been exceptions), I'd think those devs are at least establishing if something is for Asobo to fix/change vs the aircraft dev.
 

9 hours ago, SayAgain said:

Ugh, was afraid that would happen as part of the “optimization”  … hopefully there is an option to overcome it?

Next time I launched the sim it wasn’t as bad. Maybe it’s dynamic 

Trying to load the Turbine Duke in SU4 resulted in a CTD; then in the FSR500 my Octavi IFR1 FMS buttons didn't control the G1000 rotaries anymore (the ones for switching menus).

Only to work again in a subsequent flight, having relaunched MSFS.

Complete game changer! After having nothing but trouble with SU3, this is almost too good to be true. Just completed a flight KHPL-CYHZ in the Fenix A319. The whole flight was just insanely smooth, not a single stutter and I gained a good 10-20 FPS (pre FG) with the same settings. I couldn't see any trade offs like lower graphics quality and my TLOD stayed super sharp throughout. The only 2 issues I came across were external lights on the Fenix not switching off properly and GSX jetways not working. All in all a keeper as I'm not looking back to SU3 - hopefully those tiny bugs will get sorted soon and we get compatibility with the likes of PMDG, ini A350 etc.

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

Maybe it’s dynamic 

ah yeah, that will do it, phew

At this point the beta will be a down the road thing for me until maddog, duke, pmdg etc are all working normally.  Which I'm ok with.  I've been happy with SU3 since the early part of the beta.