58 minutes ago, pmplayer said:

The never ending Story with that Sim, can't realy understand somebody using this desaster of Development..

Would kill my nerves, just HAPPY i have and use MSFS2020 !!

cheers 😉

Thanks for jumping in the MSFS SU4 Beta thread to tell us you don't understand us and don't use the platform. Good contribution 👍

How close do you think we are to the SU4 general release?  The reports I read and videos seem to be painting a very positive picture.

10 hours ago, Farlis said:

And how exactly do you do your performance calculations then? Or load the aircraft?

I don't worry about performance calculations, since my aircraft is always empty of passengers or cargo. As for loading the aircraft.........I just click on the "Start Flight" button 

Edited October 15, 2025Oct 15 by Christopher Low

22 hours ago, carlito777 said:

Even without controllers, the mouse is not working 100%. It is working mostly but sometimes I cannot flick switches because they don't react when clicking the mouse. I have to look away and then back at the switch to make it work. Was never a problem before SU4 beta.

If I look away from the knob, a roadrunner hammer comes out of the CD tray and whacks me and I hear " eyes straight ahead, beep beep! "

3 hours ago, pmplayer said:

The never ending Story with that Sim, can't realy understand somebody using this desaster of Development..

Would kill my nerves, just HAPPY i have and use MSFS2020 !!

cheers 😉

We'll continue to enjoy it without you.

I would guess we are maybe one more build before release. Or perhaps two, but it’s pretty close to being done. Feels mature now. 

Do you guys clear the rolling cache with every new release? I have never done that, but thinking that I should give it a try because of the stutters I have been getting lately. 

I don't  think SU4 is close.  At least I hope not.  SU3 is perfectly performing and stable for me, and I am worried they might mess things up by releasing SU4 before it is cooked properly. 

Maybe someone on the latest beta could answer these concerns..,

Is the frame rate slider now calibrated properly?

Do the curves show properly in hardware adjustments?

Are the new baked in textures causing texture display / resolution issues?

What is the problem with third part airports and night lighting that I am hearing about with the new texture system?

Are the overbright landmarks of a night now back to normal brightness?

Are the VRAM problems better?  

Are cockpit textures loading fine now? Early on in the beta mine were really slow loading for me.  Back to normal in SU3.

One thing I am looking forward to is the 70 aircraft being bug fixed or improved up to 2024 standard. Cant wait for that! I have heard WT are working on some, so they should turn out to be the usual success for things they are involved in.

Edited October 15, 2025Oct 15 by bobcat999

32 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

I don't  think SU4 is close.  At least I hope not

You aren't using it, are you? 

6 hours ago, pmplayer said:

The never ending Story with that Sim, can't realy understand somebody using this desaster of Development..

Would kill my nerves, just HAPPY i have and use MSFS2020 !!

cheers 😉

No one here mentioned anything that's wrong with the Sim. There's an issue with PMDG and Navigraph. 2024 is running just as well as the former.

Enjoy your 2020!!!!

I have zero issues with SU4 beta, lucky guy I suppose.

2 minutes ago, CarlosF said:

I have zero issues with SU4 beta, lucky guy I suppose.

Most people have zero issues. Naturally the people who have issues post more - but this beta is being received a LOT more positively than previous ones. 

2 hours ago, carlito777 said:

Do you guys clear the rolling cache with every new release? I have never done that, but thinking that I should give it a try because of the stutters I have been getting lately. 

Have a habit to do it on a regular base just delete the rolling cache file before starting up MSFS... That's all

2 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

I don't  think SU4 is close.  At least I hope not.  SU3 is perfectly performing and stable for me, and I am worried they might mess things up by releasing SU4 before it is cooked properly. 

Maybe someone on the latest beta could answer these concerns..,

Is the frame rate slider now calibrated properly?

Do the curves show properly in hardware adjustments?

Are the new baked in textures causing texture display / resolution issues?

What is the problem with third part airports and night lighting that I am hearing about with the new texture system?

Are the overbright landmarks of a night now back to normal brightness?

Are the VRAM problems better?  

Are cockpit textures loading fine now? Early on in the beta mine were really slow loading for me.  Back to normal in SU3.

One thing I am looking forward to is the 70 aircraft being bug fixed or improved up to 2024 standard. Cant wait for that! I have heard WT are working on some, so they should turn out to be the usual success for things they are involved in.

Some answers for you... 

- Frame rate slider you mend to lock the FPS?

- Curves still on going but for my hardware they do

- Not that I have seen

- Should be solved with 1.6.15.0

- Overbright landmarks they have solved them almost lot of work done there but not all 1.6.15.0

- VRAM is far better as it ever was also we have now multi threaded CPU for the user aircraft which helps to
I have now enough at my 16GB VRAM compared to SU3 with the same settings.

- Cockpit textures loading fine
 

In general this experience is with my local system and SU4 1.6.15.0

Still some work to be done few show stoppers included AI bug which is major and confirmed.
But as for performance this sim is a huge step forward. 

Hope it's helpful

Edited October 15, 2025Oct 15 by virtualstuff

2 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

Is the frame rate slider now calibrated properly?

No, it is not working properly. If I limit the fps to 45, then I get 32-33 fps in VR. When I disable the limiter, then I get a steady 45 fps (locked at half refresh rate in the Pimax software). Absolutely ridiculous.