12 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

what addon handles autopilot more accurately?

Please keep in mind that I'm not a real life pilot when I say this. For me, the Fenix A320 is the gold standard when it comes to lateral path drawing and following (LNAV). I'm not in a position to tell if the handling is accurate. I like to call it *convincing*. The thing does what I would expect from a real world aircraft. None of the things I pointed out earlier happen in the Fenix A320. The same is true for the autothrust handling. They even further improved that in one of the latest updates, and it was already pretty good. No erratic spool ups or spool down, just very convincing.

The one thing that is lacking in the Fenix is the VNAV, and as you may have heard, they are reworking it completely. If that turns out to be as good as their LNAV and AT, the Fenix is going to be bliss in the auto flight department.

Recycling the same old soup isn't my ideal sim target, I paid 60 bucks for the forgotten DC6, no more randazzian old soups here.

21 hours ago, ahsmatt7 said:

As someone who flies these things in real life, what you point out frustrates me. However, your last point….i had the real thing do this exact same thing to me on my last trip. Annoying as all heck. Anyways, I really hope they don’t give us the same stuff just moved over to 2024.

IT WILL BE , PMDG delay releases to try and fool people into thinking its a new Build that's taken a year to make so they can charge you multiple times for the same product , they must think most of us came down in the last shower . PMDG fans fall for it as they have PMDG up high on a pedestal so are blindsided and think they are the same PMDG of FSX/P3D days, yes back then they where no1 but not now.

 

On 12/4/2025 at 5:40 AM, UrgentSiesta said:

It feels like you're not paying attention to the information released so far...?

This vid gets into some of the specifics, and from what I can see, they're far more than skin deep:

 

Sure, maybe the changes you desire aren't there, but there's a lot of "meat" in this upgrade in terms of systems and physics (and graphics, like opening windows and cabin doors, etc.).

Not saying you have to be in love with the upgrade, or that it'll be paid, but c'mon, man...!

I like watching A330 Driver but when it comes to him reviewing anything PMDG im very skeptical as hes part of the Beta testing team so he never says anything negative about PMDG hes like a salesman for PMDG

Edited December 5, 2025Dec 5 by jason74

10 hours ago, NovemberUniform said:

Please keep in mind that I'm not a real life pilot when I say this. For me, the Fenix A320 is the gold standard when it comes to lateral path drawing and following (LNAV). I'm not in a position to tell if the handling is accurate. I like to call it *convincing*. The thing does what I would expect from a real world aircraft. None of the things I pointed out earlier happen in the Fenix A320. The same is true for the autothrust handling. They even further improved that in one of the latest updates, and it was already pretty good. No erratic spool ups or spool down, just very convincing.

The one thing that is lacking in the Fenix is the VNAV, and as you may have heard, they are reworking it completely. If that turns out to be as good as their LNAV and AT, the Fenix is going to be bliss in the auto flight department.

Much appreciated - I may need to break down and go (Fenix) Airbus!

5 hours ago, jason74 said:

I like watching A330 Driver but when it comes to him reviewing anything PMDG im very skeptical as hes part of the Beta testing team so he never says anything negative about PMDG hes like a salesman for PMDG

Did he say ANYTHING inaccurate in that video…?

it’s ironic to me that folks will pick apart the graphics in a hyper compressed YouTube video, and others won’t believe the buttons they plainly see being pushed with their own eyes. 

do we have to try and get excited about a 737 AGAIN? 😴

13 hours ago, Claudius_ said:

Recycling the same old soup isn't my ideal sim target, I paid 60 bucks for the forgotten DC6, no more randazzian old soups here.

Yeah, I'm still bitter about that. 

I really hope they shine through this. We'll see

4 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

t’s ironic to me that folks will pick apart the graphics in a hyper compressed YouTube video, and others won’t believe the buttons they plainly see being pushed with their own eyes. 

not really happens all the time  when a new pmdg thread opens up

5 hours ago, EGLD said:

do we have to try and get excited about a 737 AGAIN? 😴

PMDG aside, the 737 is genuinely one of my favorites. 
big enough to go far, pretty fast, and small enough to get into small-ish airports. 

could do the same things with an A319/320, I’m just more comfortable with Boeings.

Edited December 5, 2025Dec 5 by UrgentSiesta

6 hours ago, EGLD said:

do we have to try and get excited about a 737 AGAIN? 😴

…🙂…Nonetheless, it has been going on since their first NG, the (-600/-700) pair, had come out in 2003, and one that many of us here today had purchased and flown.

For better or worse, the “rinse & repeat” of the same 737 variants continues now from MSFS2020 into MSFS2024. I wish they bring out another Boeing such as the 757/767 with their expertise, or even their good old classics, the MD-11 or the JS41, for MSFS…

Oh well…

Cheers and happy flying…!

7 hours ago, EGLD said:

do we have to try and get excited about a 737 AGAIN? 😴

Well, technically compared to the number of buses in the market, I'd say yes? 

Please hurry up with the 747 Classic release! 😸

I'm not getting any younger here.

Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by skully

4 hours ago, P_7878 said:

…🙂…Nonetheless, it has been going on since their first NG, the (-600/-700) pair, had come out in 2003, and one that many of us here today had purchased and flown.

For better or worse, the “rinse & repeat” of the same 737 variants continues now from MSFS2020 into MSFS2024. I wish they bring out another Boeing such as the 757/767 with their expertise, or even their good old classics, the MD-11 or the JS41, for MSFS…

Sadly, I doubt that we will ever see the JS41 again. I would love to be proved wrong, but as far as PMDG is concerned (and with respect to sales forecasts), this is in the same boat as the MD-11.

Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by Christopher Low

Their Jetstream was such a good (and under rated) aircraft.