I saw the video of say intentions and the Navigraph charts in particular, using the co-pilot to display the charts for you. At the end of the video it says "available now" but I cannot find anything on it at the Say Intentions website or the Discord channel. Anybody else have any other luck? On a side note I'm still confused on why Discord seems to be used. It's incredibly inefficient but just my opinion.

Edited Thursday at 03:29 AM1 day by cchiozza

It's in the pilot portal settings. I think it was under preview. But I'm not at my pc right now.

I have deactivated it. For me there was no eeal benefit. And in order to have it to display on mobile or tablet, pocket sky has to be running. If not, you get a verbal error message over and over again.

I have the charts open all the time on my laptop.

It's like the presence detection. Nice but also for me not really beneficial

Do users think this product is viable long term what with ever increasing cost of tokens?

1 hour ago, scotchegg said:

Do users think this product is viable long term what with ever increasing cost of tokens?

I doubt it when nothing structurel changes at SIAI End

AI traffic injection is still far behind of what BATC and FSHud can deliver. Meanwhile, the overall ATC flexibility is very well. CDPLC is nice too.

4 hours ago, scotchegg said:

Do users think this product is viable long term what with ever increasing cost of tokens?

I personally think SI is only viable in terms of growth, if the retail cost comes down over time. If it was sub $10 per month, I think a lot more people would be tempted. But there are also issues with how the operation is run and the focus on non-core elements, in my opinion. They seem to add all these gimmicks to detract from the fact that progress on the core ATC product is painstakingly slow. You'll see 6 updates per day in the "News" section of the SI app.... but these don't translate to a meaningful improvement in experience.

If SI are happy to maintain the relatively tiny percentage of simmers who currently subscribe, and abandon major growth plans, I think they could 'tick over' for some years.

1 hour ago, JYW said:

progress on the core ATC product is painstakingly slow

That's because doing ATC really well is word not allowed hard. 😭

1 hour ago, JYW said:

They seem to add all these gimmicks to detract from the fact that progress on the core ATC product is painstakingly slow.

I did the 24hr trial over the weekend. The last time I tried it was 2 years ago. From strictly an ATC perspective, there was little to zero improvement from 2 years ago. A failed handoff on departure, repeated instructions once I was able to contact ATC in different voices, British accents nearly the entire time in the NE USA & fairly miserable vectors for an ILS approach. Brian is very good at the sales game for sure and is a good talker but this was disappointing...I really thought there would be some amount of ATC improvement from 2 years ago...lol. I guess that is why all the gimmicks are being shoehorned in to the program (of which I personally have no use for).....

4 hours ago, JYW said:

If SI are happy to maintain the relatively tiny percentage of simmers who currently subscribe, and abandon major growth plans, I think they could 'tick over' for some years.

Idk man. You can go look at their live map…I was bored last night and around 05z there were like 360+ planes flying around on the network. Compare that to vatsim which had 500+. Id say a lot of people are willing to pay for a full ecosystem.

I've been an SI Partner for quite some time. Thoroughly enjoy it with few issues. Sure, it's still growing and working out some things but it provides everything I've waited decades for in ATC for MSFS. My opinion of course.

9 hours ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Idk man. You can go look at their live map…I was bored last night and around 05z there were like 360+ planes flying around on the network. Compare that to vatsim which had 500+. Id say a lot of people are willing to pay for a full ecosystem.

Although the number of plane visible couldn't be directly related to the number of subscribers. As far as I remember the Skynet multiplayer (as participant) is free.

Think i have to try BATC again. Last time i used it (beginning of the year) it was in my opinion clearly lacking behind SI. Especially in terms of immersion.

Do you hear rhe Aircraft in front of you when waiting for take off in the coms in BATC?

18 hours ago, scotchegg said:

Do users think this product is viable long term what with ever increasing cost of tokens?

Brian continued to mention almost every other sentence on how “absurdly” expensive it is at the expo… makes me a bit worried.

Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by UAL4life

With the ever increasing investment bubble in AI compute capacity, the cost per token ain't going down anytime soon. At some point the world needs to acknowledge it has to pay for AI to provide a return or there will be a market adjustment and lots of people will lose large parts of those investments and invariably some companies will cease trading.

14 hours ago, Flic1 said:

A failed handoff on departure, repeated instructions once I was able to contact ATC in different voices, British accents nearly the entire time in the NE USA

There’s no such thing as a “British accent”. 😉

There are English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish (Northern Ireland) accents. A Scot would take great exception to having his accent described as British. Same for the other countries that make up the UK.

Don’t want to jump on you. 😉 Just needed some clarification.