10 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Whatever we have, if it breaks or isn't perfect, don't bother complaining about it or trying to make it better, just build your own

How is stating you have zero respect for Asobo at this stage, 'trying to make it better'?

For someone who hates MSFS as much as bob does, he sure hangs around a lot. I thought he said ages ago that he had found something 'better' so I was kind of hoping he would fade away but he has joined the ranks of those who seem to be triggered by certain phrases or topics and will rain down the negativity almost immediately. Kind of sad that people really can't find something else to do but prefer to dwell on what they are unhappy about and insist on sharing that with the rest of us.

On 10/28/2026 at 4:30 PM, AnkH said:

explanation: "Followed one of Asobo's suggestion on the issue to add invisible mesh to the objects to make the sim think that object is bigger than it is." Interesting, no?

And complete BS too ... same old same old. According to an Asobo developer (not a PR person) they believe they found the problem (listed in the Official developer forum) in their culling process and will aim for SU8 release ... I have my doubts as not much "detail" was provided.

On 10/29/2026 at 8:09 PM, btacon said:

Thought so but hey, by now you should know that ALL software contains bugs and flaws. Comes with the territory. Blue skies

Sure, but after 6 years in ... its a flaw that we've been fed false information, obfuscation, and frankly lies. Seems to be the way of the world these days. And the issue is NOT specific to AI landing gear, I demonstrated (many times) the culling issue hits ALL OBJECTS, not just AI landing gear. It impacts jetway wheels, aircraft wings, wifi humps, and parked cars and any object. So Asobo with the "invisible" bounding box as a "work around" is frankly stupid. We "pay" others to build the simulator because we can't, hardly a justification for poor coding which I still believe is "by design" to improve FPS for those that care more about FPS than visual accuracy.

1 hour ago, SayAgain said:

And complete BS too ... same old same old. According to an Asobo developer (not a PR person) they believe they found the problem (listed in the Official developer forum) in their culling process and will aim for SU8 release ... I have my doubts as not much "detail" was provided.

You have a link? Would be great, but so many times this was promised before, I believe it if it happens 🤣

On 10/29/2026 at 8:09 PM, btacon said:

Well, with no disrespect intended you could always build your own simulator.

I don't normally get involved in such things - and I suppose I shouldn't now - but that really is a spurious argument. During my time at sea, I had to contend with some of the most idiotic design flaws and poor workmanship. Was I supposed to shut up and build my own 300,000-tonne supertanker? No disrespect intended.

1 hour ago, Paul K said:

I don't normally get involved in such things - and I suppose I shouldn't now - but that really is a spurious argument. During my time at sea, I had to contend with some of the most idiotic design flaws and poor workmanship. Was I supposed to shut up and build my own 300,000-tonne supertanker? No disrespect intended.

None taken. During my 14 years in the USAF I saw more than my share of “good enough for government” grade work. Frustrating yes. But to me multiple complaints concerning a long standing flaw in the ASOBO simulation being repeatedly posted in the Avsim forum becomes nothing more than shouting at clouds which has been proven to be highly ineffective. No disrespect intended YMMV. TANSTAAFL Blue skies,

-B

9 hours ago, SayAgain said:

Sure, but after 6 years in ... its a flaw that we've been fed false information, obfuscation, and frankly lies. Seems to be the way of the world these days. And the issue is NOT specific to AI landing gear, I demonstrated (many times) the culling issue hits ALL OBJECTS, not just AI landing gear. It impacts jetway wheels, aircraft wings, wifi humps, and parked cars and any object. So Asobo with the "invisible" bounding box as a "work around" is frankly stupid. We "pay" others to build the simulator because we can't, hardly a justification for poor coding which I still believe is "by design" to improve FPS for those that care more about FPS than visual accuracy.

Especially shadows! And the entire aircraft disappears early when it should easily be visible in real life.

On 10/30/2026 at 8:19 AM, Rimshot said:

Not even a tiny bit of respect for the gorgeous flight simulator they have built?

For all the moaning and groaning (I do it too) sometimes it's good to remind ourselves of what Asobo have created....

A flip around San Diego and it's hinterland from @vbazillio's excellent freeware makeover of KMYF Montgomery Field at day break today.

On 10/30/2026 at 4:09 PM, bobcat999 said:

Oh well there you go! What a smart answer. Whatever we have, if it breaks or isn't perfect, don't bother complaining about it or trying to make it better, just build your own. I'm off to build my own car after your pearl of wisdom. See you later! 🙄

It’s not that bugs exist, nor that they should be ignored, but rather the simpletons who say things like, “Zero respect for Asobo at this point.”

7 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

For all the moaning and groaning (I do it too) sometimes it's good to remind ourselves of what Asobo have created....

Absolutely stunning. Even more hard to understand, why such things like landing gear culling that insta-ruins the immersion of this fabolous sim is not addressed with higher priority. What does it help to fly over the most immersive and most beautiful landscape in the most beautiful sim we ever had, if all is ruined the moment you land on an airport? 🤪

15 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Absolutely stunning. Even more hard to understand, why such things like landing gear culling that insta-ruins the immersion of this fabolous sim is not addressed with higher priority. What does it help to fly over the most immersive and most beautiful landscape in the most beautiful sim we ever had, if all is ruined the moment you land on an airport? 🤪

Because most users don't have it/don't notice it, so it isn't a priority. Simple.

27 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Absolutely stunning. Even more hard to understand, why such things like landing gear culling that insta-ruins the immersion of this fabolous sim is not addressed with higher priority. What does it help to fly over the most immersive and most beautiful landscape in the most beautiful sim we ever had, if all is ruined the moment you land on an airport? 🤪

The generic auto airport scenery is far more “immersion breaking” than a missing wheel, and I don’t see all the bellyaching over that stuff

I swear some people must spend most of their time AT sim airports instead of flying. 🤦‍♂️

Even with these “issues” there’s no other sim in which I’d rather explore the world, even tho I have literally the best payware scenery available for XP and P3D. It’s not even close.

Edited November 1Nov 1 by UrgentSiesta

2 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

Because most users don't have it/don't notice it, so it isn't a priority. Simple.

Again this «dont have it» balant lie. And if you dont notice it, fair enough. But NO, do not talk about priorities, because this is ridiculous. Just take the last two changelogs and tell me which bullet points of the fixed bugs according to your logic «most people noticed». You wil realise that 90% of the stuff in each and every SU changelog would not have been noticed by anyone, so what about priorities there?

Honestly, it is not the pure fact that this bug is still present that drives me nuts regularly, but the WAY how the devs deal with it. A mixture of arrogance, neglection, inability to properly understand the issue, giving lame excuses why it is not adressed, claiming it is fixed et cetera. If they would at least make a clear statement, even if it is your mentioned priority bull, I could better accept it. But no...

@UrgentSiesta strange comparison. For many airports I can go and get an addon scenery if I do not like the generic variant from Asobo. I can DO something about it. The culling is a CORE sim issue, you cant do anything about it.

BTW: the exact same dischssion could be done for ATC. But guess why it is not happening? Exactly, because there are addons fixing the shortcomings of the CORE sim. And those who dont care, simply dont get such an addon and everybody is happy. In contrast, as the weather API is not fully open and 3rd party can not fix everything due to this restriction, discussions ARE there.

Simple as that. Also no need to write in any post how wonderful and enjoyable the sim is besides this glaring bug. As mentioned, if you are not intellectually limited to black and white thinking, this is a non issue to enjoy the sim while getting angry on certain bugs that dont get fixed over years although it is mentioned over andaover again. Also very simple...

But if it helps: I just did a flight with the ini A380 into sunset from LIRF to OTHH and it was one of the best sim experiences I ever had with all the addons playing nicely together.

Everyone who has bought MSFS is entitled to have a view on both the sim and the developers. If you happen to disagree with other members’ comments that doesn’t make you right and them wrong.

Remember, there are no right and wrong opinions, just different ones. So to the member who responded to another who had lost respect for Asobo please think before you use inflammatory words like simpleton. I’m not hiding that post in the hope a more mature debate will follow.