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RELEASE NOTES Sim Update 7.2 Beta - 1.9.23.0

If you are playing on PC, outdated packages in your community folder may have an unexpected impact on the title’s performance and behavior.

If you suffer from stability issues or long loading times, move your community package(s) to another folder before relaunching the title.

General Bug Fixes

• Reverted a change to drag simulation calculations to the pre-SU7 version to ensure backwards compatibility with certain third-party add-on aircraft.

Aircraft

• Fixed an issue that caused aircraft using Bleed Air Starters (B737, F18, …) to sometimes be unable to start their engines when the air temperature has been setup to be quite low.

It does no such thing.

25 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

It does no such thing.

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8 minutes ago, btacon said:

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he is referring to by removing your contents of your community folders

No need to remove contents of community folder, just rename until after the update.

I'm confused about this drag bug. I thought it was fixed with the 7.1 patch, but it is still there? I'll stick with the A2A stuff that likely isn't impacted anyway.

2 hours ago, kerosene31 said:

I'm confused about this drag bug. I thought it was fixed with the 7.1 patch, but it is still there? I'll stick with the A2A stuff that likely isn't impacted anyway.

So the fix they initially developed fixed subsonic aircraft... Then devs of supersonic aircraft started to complain.. So Asobo essentially threw up their hands and are going to revert to SU6 drag levels (Last known working version) for now

https://devsupport.flightsimulator.com/t/su7-engine-performance-or-drag-is-wrong/18609/59

33 minutes ago, Maxis said:

So the fix they initially developed fixed subsonic aircraft... Then devs of supersonic aircraft started to complain.. So Asobo essentially threw up their hands and are going to revert to SU6 drag levels (Last known working version) for now

https://devsupport.flightsimulator.com/t/su7-engine-performance-or-drag-is-wrong/18609/59

I just came across this thread and I am somewhat more confused then usual. I see the current version of the 2024 sim I have is 1.9.21.0. What then is the flight mode drag situation for aircraft like the Flysimware Lear35A which has a max cruise of about 0.8 Mach?
Is a new sim update coming to go back to the SU6 drag levels, or has that happened already?

Thanks,

Al

Edited October 29Oct 29 by ark

10 minutes ago, ark said:

I just came across this thread and I am somewhat more confused then usual. I see the current version of the 2024 sim I have is 1.9.21.0. What then is the flight mode drag situation for aircraft like the Flysimware Lear35A which has a max cruise of about 0.8 Mach?
Thanks,

Al

Considering the current sim version (7.1 Non Beta also known as 1.9.21.0 ) has the subsonic aircraft drag fix and you are flying subsonic aircraft you should be fine.

However, If you were flying a fighter jet for example and you are unable to get to Mach 1 or 2 then you would have been affected.

The current just released 7.2 beta version is a rollback to SU6 drag levels for everyone where there were no drag complaints from both subsonic and supersonic devs.

Edited October 29Oct 29 by Maxis

If only they had 6+ years to learn about Quality Control 🤣 good grief what a clown show, every update something gets broken, never change Asobo...never change 🤭

Folks, for clarification about what this release note from the SU7.2 beta means, it is not undoing SU7. In SU7, there was a change to drag calculations that inadvertently reduced drag values slightly. In SU7.1, the issue with too little drag was fixed, but unfortunately an unintended by-product of that fix was that some third-party add-on aircraft (particularly supersonic fighter jets) were now experiencing more drag which prevented them from reaching their top speeds. In SU7.2, all drag calculations have been reverted to what they were in SU6.1; nothing else in SU7/SU7.1 is being rolled back or undone.

Thanks,

SeedyL, MSFS Community Manager

1 hour ago, MarcG said:

If only they had 6+ years to learn about Quality Control 🤣 good grief what a clown show, every update something gets broken, never change Asobo...never change 🤭

Don't you ever get tired of making the same old comments? Or do you just want to make absolutely sure that everyone has read what you think of Asobo? 😉

13 hours ago, pete_auau said:

he is referring to by removing your contents of your community folders

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the thread title, which says it's "un-doing" SU7, and Ricardo correctly responded that this new update "does no such thing".

8 hours ago, Maxis said:

However, If you were flying a fighter jet for example and you are unable to get to Mach 1 or 2 then you would have been affected.

So did they just take the easy way out and add a MULTIPLIER for the 7.1 drag fix…?

Somebody needs a spanking 🤣

And I’m not sure, but we also got the OTHER aero bug for helos at the same time, not sure how this augurs for rotor heads…?

7 hours ago, SeedyL said:

Folks, for clarification about what this release note from the SU7.2 beta means, it is not undoing SU7. In SU7, there was a change to drag calculations that inadvertently reduced drag values slightly. In SU7.1, the issue with too little drag was fixed, but unfortunately an unintended by-product of that fix was that some third-party add-on aircraft (particularly supersonic fighter jets) were now experiencing more drag which prevented them from reaching their top speeds. In SU7.2, all drag calculations have been reverted to what they were in SU6.1; nothing else in SU7/SU7.1 is being rolled back or undone.

Thanks,

SeedyL, MSFS Community Manager

This isn’t Asobo’s best work, Seedy.

It’s a FLIGHT simulator, after all.

Edited October 30Oct 30 by UrgentSiesta