February 16, 201115 yr I don't know about all of you, but before I BUY or DOWNLOAD a plane from any site or developer, I check out the VC! If the new aircraft has a realistic VC, then I will probably download it or buy it. When I see a VC that looks like it's from FS2004 or earlier (primitive blocky look), I won't even give it a 2nd look. If it doesn't have a VC, it takes me about 3 seconds to move on and forget it. I'm a VC flyer, and that cockpit realism is what turns me on.Just wondering if you feel the same. Stan
February 16, 201115 yr I beg to differ. Accuracy of aircraft/scenery details and compatibility with FSXI beg to differ. Accuracy of aircraft/scenery details and compatibility with FSX remains as a key factor in determining an add-on IMO. I also check to see if those downloads are interesting enough for me to enjoy within Flight Simulator. Dave. "It goes without saying that when survival is threatened, struggles erupt between peoples, and unfortunate wars between nations result." -HIDEKI TOJO
February 16, 201115 yr A good VC is vital for me as well. The rest is obviously important but 2d cockpits are a thing of the past for me. Alexander Alonso
February 16, 201115 yr Author I beg to differ. Accuracy of aircraft/scenery details and compatibility with FSXI beg to differ. Accuracy of aircraft/scenery details and compatibility with FSX remains as a key factor in determining an add-on IMO. I also check to see if those downloads are interesting enough for me to enjoy within Flight Simulator. Dave.Dave...I'm not referring to an "addon". Scenery and other details are a different category. I love great scenery..like ORBX, and I download all their stuff. I'm talking about AIRCRAFT ONLY. The VC determines for me the realism and sophistication of the purchase or download.Thanks.Stan
February 16, 201115 yr Commercial Member I'm 100% with you. In my book, good modeling starts with an excellent VC and works its way out to the exterior. After all, I'm not flying this thing from the wing, I'm in the left seat! Plus, VCs are difficult to produce well. If a dev has taken the time to get the insides right, the chances are good the rest of the plane is well-done, too. Bill Womack ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit my FS Blog or follow me on Twitter (username: bwomack). Intel i7-950 OC to 4GHz | 6GB DDR3 RAM | Nvidia GTX460 1gb | 2x 120GB SSDs | Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
February 16, 201115 yr Hi Stan, I do agree with you on having a good vc but I'm more forgiving when it comes to the overall look of the vc so I wont totally drop it if the quality is decent. but I will admit that I wont purchase in aircraft if it doesn't come with a virtual cockpit I just love them too much! Some people might disagree but at least to me it makes me feel that I'm really inside the aircraft and really enjoy flying with them. I will give everyone in example I have the wilco 737 it has been some time since that was released so its gotten old but to me the vc looks fine its of course not as detailed as the ones coming out now but enough for me. Cesar Martinez AMD 7800X3D RTX5080 NZXT N7 B650E | G.Skill 32GB DDR5 Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | Crucial MX500 (2×) | Crucial P3 Plus Monitor: Philips Evnia 34M2C6500 QD-OLED
February 16, 201115 yr I don't know about all of you, but before I BUY or DOWNLOAD a plane from any site or developer, I check out the VC! If the new aircraft has a realistic VC, then I will probably download it or buy it. When I see a VC that looks like it's from FS2004 or earlier (primitive blocky look), I won't even give it a 2nd look. If it doesn't have a VC, it takes me about 3 seconds to move on and forget it. I'm a VC flyer, and that cockpit realism is what turns me on.Just wondering if you feel the same. StanGot to admit I really don't care about the VC...DJ
February 16, 201115 yr I'm all about the VC these days as well. If I can't make use of my TrackIR, I have no use for the plane. - Aaron
February 16, 201115 yr I don't know about all of you, but before I BUY or DOWNLOAD a plane from any site or developer, I check out the VC! If the new aircraft has a realistic VC, then I will probably download it or buy it. When I see a VC that looks like it's from FS2004 or earlier (primitive blocky look), I won't even give it a 2nd look. If it doesn't have a VC, it takes me about 3 seconds to move on and forget it. I'm a VC flyer, and that cockpit realism is what turns me on.Just wondering if you feel the same. StanI'm with you when it comes to FSX. I'm having this trouble with the Majestic Software's Dash 8. Amazing realism packaged with a flat VC. I would be ok if it was more like LevelD's 767 VC, but even that is looking dated with a lot of flat buttons on the overhead panel. I don't know how large some of the dev. teams are, but we are seeing more FSX payware aircraft with good realism and fantastic VCs. It's hard not to push our minimum requirements higher Derek RogersPC Specs: Intel i7-4790K 4.6GHz : 16GB RAM : GTX 970 4GB
February 16, 201115 yr Same here, when an aircraft stirs my interest the first thing I do is look for the VC screenies.If they are not up to scratch then I don't even bother looking at the rest of the screenshots.Bryan.
February 16, 201115 yr The VC isnt even a consideration for me, however, its important that it has a good, functional 2d panel.
February 16, 201115 yr Moderator I don't know about all of you, but before I BUY or DOWNLOAD a plane from any site or developer, I check out the VC! If the new aircraft has a realistic VC, then I will probably download it or buy it. When I see a VC that looks like it's from FS2004 or earlier (primitive blocky look), I won't even give it a 2nd look. If it doesn't have a VC, it takes me about 3 seconds to move on and forget it. I'm a VC flyer, and that cockpit realism is what turns me on.Just wondering if you feel the same. StanI'm with you Stan.While I don't buy many planes mainly because I fly tubes most of the time and there arn't that many to choose from that I am interested in, one of the first things I look at is the VC. If the VC is really poor looking by todays standards then I am out. I gave up 2D panels once I got FSX and have never looked back. Then in addition to the EZDok camera, I really have no need since I can assign joystick keys to instantly zoon in on the overhead panel, center console, etc. Plus I live the feeling of the VC, it feels more real that looking at a 2D panel like I did in FS9.Fortunately, it seems like a lot of devs are really doing nice work on VC's. If you look at the upcomming PMDG NGX it looks like it may have the best looking VC ever created for a flight sim, although their JS4100 isn't bad either. AS long as I can fly from the VC with minimal 2D panel popups I am happy. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
February 16, 201115 yr Greetings,I suspect the VC issue might be related to experience for some. I know very experienced RW pilots who don't put a great deal of value on the VC. And I know those who do. For RW pilots, I suspect their preference is dictated by their RW experience. Those who spend/spent most of their time either IFR and/or above FL300 don't place a great deal of value on the VC. Those who spend/spent most of their time VFR and below FL180 prefer the VC. The VC is important to me because I like to look around and have the experience as real feeling as possible. I never use a 2D panel. Best Regards,Bill in Colorado "A good landing is one you can walk away from. An excellent landing is one you can taxi away from." Bill in Colorado: Retired Comm: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument CFI: ASEL/AMEL/Instrument
February 16, 201115 yr A great VC definitely adds to the immersion factor. Before I was a believer in the VC, I used to hear people swearing by them. Consequently, I decided to give them a try. I soon learned why people were so adamant about their VC's. I am now a VC discpline :(
February 16, 201115 yr I fly mainly VFR missions in FSX so a VC is a must for me. The only aircraft I have without a VC is the Tinmouse 737-200. I wish someone could make a nice VC for it! Other freeware aircraft have some good VC's - David Maltby's HS 748 BAC 1-11 and Trident have good examples of realistic and immersive virtual cockpits (they also have a click spot to compute V speeds...why has no one else done this? It's SO useful!).I think 2D panels are useful when flying "big tin" in IFR. Otherwise it's " no VC no download" for me 99 per cent of the time.Adam Chillblast Core i5 14600KF Liquid Cooled RTX 4070 SUPER 32GB RAM. Internet: 1 Gig Fibre. HoneyComb Throttle & Flight System. UK PPL since 2006 current on PA-28, C-152, C172, Decathlon, C-42 based at EGHP.
Create an account or sign in to comment