Matthew, I Normally respect your posts and opinions, but what is with the icy tone towards this feature and those in favor?Yes this is a flight simulator, but what consumers of PMDG products like to do is simulate aircraft operations. Refueling is a very important part of flight operations, as without it you could not go flying. The real-time feature on the MD-11 was probably my most admired feature of that craft, I was captivated and amazed by it the first time I used it. I do no notice it affecting system performance, and it does not use any animations as its all just behind the scenes code. (i believe, I do admit i am no specialist on FSX programming) As i said above, i was disappointed to find this feature not modeled in the NGX and that PMDG has, to my knowledge, not answered a single question on this topic when it has been evident it is a feature demanded by the market.. I hope it will be in the 777 and 747V2 and I also hope it will make it into future updates for the NGX as an option for those who wish to use it.Even if its not possible, it would be nice for PMDG to actually make a statement on why. Even if its something superficial such as "we found it wasnt possible in these/this product line"

I do not intend to come across as icy or in any way unfriendly - sorry. Just saying that personally, I do not see the point to it. If others do, so be it. For me, it is simple: it is a simulator to simulate the flying experience, not how long it takes to load an aircraft with fuel. How to distribute that fuel evenly in an aircraft as complicated as a Concorde - sure, that could be useful. But to simulate the time it takes to load fuel into any aircraft - I do not see the benefit in that myself.

Wasnt it simulated in the MD because it is there in the real airplane?

Wasnt it simulated in the MD because it is there in the real airplane?

Actually there is no such thing like fuel loader embedded in FMS in RL. Thats just aux and artificial page that do not exist in RL MD11. Still, I like it more than other developers solutions (like some popup panels or using FSX menu).

I do not intend to come across as icy or in any way unfriendly - sorry. Just saying that personally, I do not see the point to it. If others do, so be it. For me, it is simple: it is a simulator to simulate the flying experience, not how long it takes to load an aircraft with fuel. How to distribute that fuel evenly in an aircraft as complicated as a Concorde - sure, that could be useful. But to simulate the time it takes to load fuel into any aircraft - I do not see the benefit in that myself.

And I respect your opinion. However PMDG are building these products for the market and there is demand from the market for this feature. You do not have to use it if you don't wish too, as i'm sure you know in the MD-11 it is possible to use both methods. But there are others of us, me included, who do want to simulate the time it takes to load the aircraft and manage the fuel tanks. Its where I find enjoyment in these complex products. All i'm asking is that PMDG consider implementing this into there new product line, and if they dont, give us a statement on why.

Wasnt it simulated in the MD because it is there in the real airplane?

No, It was in the flightsim options area of the FMC and was added to give users more realistic turnarounds, as it can take a significant amount of time to refuel an airliner.

Oh. Dont know why I thought it was possible in real MDs to remotely control fueling...

I am pretty sure that page exists in the MD11 (not all the PMDG feutures included obviously), it's been a while since I checked the FCOM. I also recall them showing that fuel page in a swiss air video, they entered the amount so the fuel system could load into the cg tanks etc.Regards

Surely the extra code has an impact on performance of the sim if it is not necessary for it to be included?

Adding a refueling timer to the aircraft maybe adds couple of rows of code that the program has to run through. My programming skills are limited, but I have made a tetris game for PC and it was about 1500 rows of code. The NGX probably have hundreds of thousands of rows of code. The fuel timer may reduce performance, but it like one hundredth of a fps

I think, as long as we do not talk about a complete animation of the fuel transporter, the fuel transporters driver drinking coffee and the the fuel transporters driver coffee physics, there wouldn't be any noticeable frame impact.And if so, I would decide for this feature instead of animated pilots ...

i have only used the md11 refueling once that way. i use the menu bar. i find it to actually be very good. I like the NGX because i don't always have the time to wait for the plane to refuel.

yes please! i like the slow refuel of the MD-11. No idea why the NGX does not have this.Its a small thing yes but the aircraft suddenly lowering 2-6 inches when you load fuel is immersion breaking. It would be cool to watch the fuel flowing while you wait for the GSX ground crew to load your plane and Fs2crew to finnish its boarding.

I liked it in the MD-11, too. It is a nice touch. I'd compare this feature to the time it takes to align the IRS: some people have it set on realistic and wait (or do other preparations during that time), others use the "instant on" option.

That option would be nice, filling the tanks while doing other preflight tasks.

Would love to have this feature back. It's bringing a small level of life into the preflight phase.

guys- im sure this feature will be added. And i agree- it should be.They read the forums, and usually give us what request.

Pardon me, but why? It is unnecessary code. If you're going to do that, then why not go all the way and simulate invisible passengers boarding on airstairs that do not move and wait while they all take their imaginary seats?

Well I don't think it's that extreme since they've done it before. Clearly most people prefer the other method.mitch bowman