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You are a passenger on a B737-800NG and both pilots are unconscious. Could you land it?

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:LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO:

 

 

Honestly, small aircraft are quite east to handfly and land. I don't understand the notion that just because it flies therefore, it must be very hard to control...

I am sure with your confedence you could land a space shuttle on first attempt with no experiance.

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I'd program the autoland (hopefully its a non HUD aircraft as the autoland would't be disabled), I wouldn't dare to risk a manual landing.

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In the ridiculously unlikely event that someone winds up in this situation there are a couple of things to bear in mind:

You have nothing to lose - the noisy things strapped to the wings (or tail) will stop eventually

You sure better believe you can do it, because if you don't it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. That's not arrogance or excessive self confidence - that's base survival instinct.

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Would have thought that

all technical and crap
was a prerequisite to success.

 

3 , 2 , 1 & .... flames ON


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Ok let me think..I get through the bulkhead door. At this point a panic/heart attack situation occurs. Calculating..The plane is on auto pilot and I know what this aircraft can do. Situation avoided and a strange calm comes over me. I contact ATC and the rest is history.

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if the pilots had passed out or something, then yes, I've landed the 737-800 sim at Continental's training base 3 times without difficulty. The trouble would be if something is abnormal wiht the aircraft itself.

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Absolutely I could.

 

 

I'm not a pilot... But I did stay in a Holiday Inn Last Night.

 

 

HA! I beat you all to it! WIN!

 

 

The T.V. show, "The Aviators" did this very test, along with "Myth Busters" (both level D sims).... As I recall, 100% failure without instruction.. including an experienced PPL. BUT.. with "Airport 1977" style talk down.. They all landed safely... including a 12 year old boy in the Aviators test.

 

Heck, just google it.. It's been done plenty in small aircraft. AOAP has a story like this on their site with a PPL landing a King Air after the pilot died of a heart attack. One of my favorite lines of all time, he said "that thing landed like a butterfly with sore feet".... Classic.

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Even assuming that a sim-pilot-who-never-been-in-a-real-cockpit gets talked down to do an autoland...having never experienced the pressure of a foot pedal in a real acft, what are the chances the acft will stop after landing and stay on the runway, leave alone the center line?


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I say yes too. After all, when "Is anyone here a pilot" is asked I think people would rather trust someone who is familiar and enthusiastic about this stuff more than some Joe going to a concert in Indiana.

 

I would first let ATC know the situation, then, with their guidance, I'd make the airplane go as slow as possible to avoid any mistakes or overspeed. I'd program an ILS, and go from there.

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I'd make the airplane go as slow as possible to avoid any mistakes or overspeed.

 

About 80 knots should be fine, don't need to bother with the flaps

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It really depends, many factors are involved. If ac is 100% serviceable and wx is ok, there is a chance.

 

I logged many hours in GA aircrafts, but still I do not know am I able to land 737, so I would probably use autoland at any long ILS equiped rwy no mater if it is CATIII sertified or not. If it have to be a hand landing, it would probably be a long strait in app, with some 20nm distance in rwy axis, and few test turns before that, just to feel controls.

 

Anyway, I thinks its better to have experienced NGX player at commands than a PPL holder who have never seen 737 cockpit before.

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Now you see what a high responsibility lies on PMDG's shoulders: if they do not model flightdynamics or system 100% we will blame them after our emergency landing ... if we can ... mostly not I assume... :P

 

 

 

But I think: yes, it is possible to land under nearly perfect conditions (weather, right time, enough time, right mixture of adrenaline), depends how good is your FS knowledge behind pressing knobs in the right order. Would be good to know what happens if you press this or that knob.

 

 

But remember: pilots are not paid for the 80% boring time they are on the flight deck every day under CAVOK conditions.

Pilots are paid for deciding the right things if something is not running very well to avoid desasters. Pilots are paid to land that can savely in shearwinds, and all weather conditions.

 

Same with flight attendants: they are not paid to bring you meal and coffee: they are part of the security system on an aircraft, making the right decisions at the ight time, handle evacuation, emergencies inflight with passengers etc ...


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Simple answer: No.

 

More in depth anwser: Perhaps.

 

First Things First: Could you get the pilots body out of the seat without knocking some of the controls? It's actually quite difficult, we've practiced it a couple of times in recurrent training, not as easy as pushing someone out of a dining room chair, particularly if they're a big fella. Honestly, you may well be better off just sitting on the dead pilots lap, for all the risk involved.

 

Secondly: The A320 flap lever? Not as easy as you may think, even the 737 lever I'm sure some of you may find issues with somehow...

 

Thirdly: A Go-Around, in the possible event you need to go around, I'd imagine that you'd probably overspeed, The Automatics, would idle the throttle, and before you know if, you're at A-Max about to go into A-Floor, and this cycle will continue on...

 

Fourthly: These things are designed to be flown by 2 crew, if not 3 in some cases, you are one man, don't fool yourself to thinking that it'll be alright. Even for a fully trained and experienced pilot, operating a two-man aircraft by himself will find that he will be pushed towards his limits in that situation.

 

Fifthly: Do you even know how to transmit over the radios? Work the RMP? That's not modeled in FS, so most of yall wouldn't have any experience with what to do there.

 

However, I will give you this, if you find a plane, and have had a fair few hours on it in FS if it was a high quality Add on like PMDG, FSL, or Leonardo MD, then, I'd say you'd have the best chance of most people on board of being able to set it up for an Autoland, after receiving vectors to an Airport with a Cat II or greater ILS...

 

Ró.


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Simple answer: No.

 

More in depth anwser: Perhaps.

 

First Things First: Could you get the pilots body out of the seat without knocking some of the controls? It's actually quite difficult, we've practiced it a couple of times in recurrent training, not as easy as pushing someone out of a dining room chair, particularly if they're a big fella. Honestly, you may well be better off just sitting on the dead pilots lap, for all the risk involved.

 

Secondly: The A320 flap lever? Not as easy as you may think, even the 737 lever I'm sure some of you may find issues with somehow...

 

Thirdly: A Go-Around, in the possible event you need to go around, I'd imagine that you'd probably overspeed, The Automatics, would idle the throttle, and before you know if, you're at A-Max about to go into A-Floor, and this cycle will continue on...

 

Fourthly: These things are designed to be flown by 2 crew, if not 3 in some cases, you are one man, don't fool yourself to thinking that it'll be alright. Even for a fully trained and experienced pilot, operating a two-man aircraft by himself will find that he will be pushed towards his limits in that situation.

 

Fifthly: Do you even know how to transmit over the radios? Work the RMP? That's not modeled in FS, so most of yall wouldn't have any experience with what to do there.

 

However, I will give you this, if you find a plane, and have had a fair few hours on it in FS if it was a high quality Add on like PMDG, FSL, or Leonardo MD, then, I'd say you'd have the best chance of most people on board of being able to set it up for an Autoland, after receiving vectors to an Airport with a Cat II or greater ILS...

 

Ró.

 

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One more thing here, can you move the seat to suit your position? No scrolling the mouse wheel over the seat in the RW, or just clicking and dragging.....

 

Whenever I hear a simmer saying that they could land the Airplane, the first image that comes into my head is always one of a Simmer attempting to Go-Around by scratching at a screw on the FCU, panic growing as nothing happens, so they start scratching more violently at this screw until BAM!!!, Smoking crater... :rolleyes:

 


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