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Embarrassing confession......

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No one enjoys flight simming more than I. I've been doing it religiously since the very early days (at least 15 years ago). I fly mostly GA aircraft, and business jets. However, I still love flying the heavy iron, but I only use airliners that can navigate with the default GPS.

 

So, that's my confession. And I'm really embarrassed to say that I still do not know how to use an FMS navigation system that's so present in some of the finest models FSX has to offer. I've never taken the time to really learn about SIDS and STARS or programming an FMS. I know I'm really missing out on some tremendous experiences with phenomenal looking aircraft.

 

No excuses, but by the end of this year, I'm committed to learning how to navigate using this instrument. If you could recommend the best starting point for me in my quest, I'd appreciate it.

 

Now I feel better getting this monkey off my back!

 

Stan

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Get the ngx, do both tutorials that come with it, then go apply at your local favorite airline for an FO position.

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Get the ngx, do both tutorials that come with it, then go apply at your local favorite airline for an FO position.

 

Hehe agreed. If all you do is the first tutorial you should be set to program the FMS (and be able to fly the plane with ease). I've got a confession too... all that material with the NGX - I've only read a few lines :P

 

NGX makes it really easy - a lot of the functions have shortcuts if you want... like your ZFW can be auto calculated based on the weights you entered... it makes it simple for people like me.

 

Route structure is easy. Departure airport - Departure Procedure - Enroute Fixes - (find one that joins star) STAR - destination airport. I recommend Skyvector to assist for routing:

http://skyvector.com/ - Either high altitude enroute or low altitude if planning on less than FL180

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The Quality Wings 757 features a simple FMS which is a nice start. The NGX is not an easy plane for "beginners" and has much more than just an FMC. Start slow and sure, that's my advice.

 

As for your confession, nothing to be ashamed about, that's how i started as well :P

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First of all, Im far from being an expert ( I mess up quite frequently)

 

By all means, get one of the high end planes, and do their FMS tutorials, PMDG, QW and Aerosoft have good tutorial flights. (I’m sure there are others, but I don’t own them)

 

 

There are several brands/types of FMS and ways to program them, but the principle is the same.

 

Here is a link to a very good video using the ISG FMS,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXU4gDoDj6c

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Hi Stan,

If you own any of the PMDG aircraft, they have tutorial you can use to program the FMC and in their other manuals too. I learned through the tutorials provided with LevelD 767. I like the ones from Captain Mike Ray - http://forum.avsim.net/page/index.html/_/reviews/airplane-checkrideprocedure-manual-from-capt-ray-r185 as he provides lots of pictures and some comic relief. I think you can download his manuals from FeelThere and Amazon.com. Just do a search for Captain Mike Ray.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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The tutorials with the NGX really are first rate. I highly recommend them. Also there are a tons of places on the net to read about procedures that are very good. It can be a bit overwhelming at first but definitley worth it.

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Very good, Stan. No problem with that 'lack' though. Turns out it's the sim you want it to be and I think one can be pretty happy with 'just' using the GPS and finding his way around.

 

On the airliners, there are some fine ones with the classic gauge setup, far away from any GPS or even FMC setups. And there are also some more coming up, namely the DC-9 from Coolsky, looking :O good.

 

This is just to avoid the other lack, only being able to run a FMC, but wondering what the needles on the old planes show you. ^_^

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Same here Stan!

 

I simply can't get past the default navigation. I only fly the commercial jets and only use the default GPS. Don't have a clue about the FMS stuff. I tried the PMDG 737 for FS9 and spent about 2 days on the tutorial and finally gave up. I really can't get motivated to try it again. Seems like a heck of a lot of effort just for a pc flightsim game. I'm not a real pilot and never will be. Besides I like to play with all different types of aircraft.

 

Bruce

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Using Boeings as an example ( I dont fly Scarebuses), there are 2 basic types of FMC's available, those that you MUST program the flight plan with, and those that allow you to load a FS flight plan directly into the FMC, which saves a heck of a lot of time....

 

Just 2 examples... PMDG, you must program it manually

 

QW 757, accepts flight plans from not only the default planner abut also from 3rd party addons

 

All other features are pretty much the same

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No one enjoys flight simming more than I. I've been doing it religiously since the very early days (at least 15 years ago). I fly mostly GA aircraft, and business jets. However, I still love flying the heavy iron, but I only use airliners that can navigate with the default GPS.

 

Stan

 

While I generally know how to program the FMC (although I only have 2 aircraft that have one), I use the GPS for a different reason. I think ATC is a must and you really can't fly with ATC (takeoff to landing) with the default ATC and VNAV.

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Stan,

 

If your interested on getting your feet wet with a basic FMC and interested in saving a few bucks at the same time, try downloading the JustFlight Freemium 757 package.

 

Bill

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What's an FMC?

 

I've looked all over the Beaver cockpit and I can't find it.

 

What am I looking for?

 

regards,

Joe

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What's an FMC?

 

I've looked all over the Beaver cockpit and I can't find it.

 

 

 

Now I feel better!

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Just 2 examples... PMDG, you must program it manually

 

 

You can import flight plans on the NGX. And almost evey addon.

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You can import flight plans on the NGX. And almost evey addon.

 

You most certainly can NOT import from the FSX default planner

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In any case, importing a flight plan won’t teach anybody on how to program a flight plan into a FMS/FMC.

 

Stan, first follow the tutorials, enter a few flight plans. Then you can save, load or convert/import flight plans.

 

Cheers

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You most certainly can NOT import from the FSX default planner

 

Your right, but you can import from FSBuild and other flight planners. Just as easy and with all the necessary and up to date nav data if you get the latest airacs.

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Hi Stan. The way I learned fastest was to go to youtube and do a search for example: 747 FMC tutorial. There is one there by "meloescher" which is 6 parts long, something like an hour long. This really cleared things up for me and made it simple over time.

 

youtube youtube youtube in addition to reading the manuals

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Just 2 examples... PMDG, you must program it manually

 

You most certainly can NOT import from the FSX default planner

Right but you said you MUST program it manually NOT that it couldn't import from the default planner...

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If you want to go the Baby steps route you could try something like the the Feelthere ERJs which allow you to import FSX flight plans directly into the FMS and you can use the FSX default ATC and forget about Stars and Sids until you have more confidence. The ERJs will of course allow you to use the full FMS envelope including STARS and SIDS when you are ready.

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My point was that planes like the QW 757 make it simple to learn because you dont have to go through all those extra steps, Loading a FP directly from FSX makes it very simple to learn, then you can move up later

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