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WINDOWS 10 and what it mean for us.

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Someone in the FSX facebook group brought up, what is to me, an interesting question. With the coming of Windows 10, what does that mean for us. Better compatibility than windows 8.1? He went on to say that he has the windows 10 technical preview and has FSX running on it. Also, for those of us who have Steam edition, will it run since SE is optimized for Windows 8.1? Thoughts?

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I can't see a better compatibility as I have no compatibility issues with win 8.1

 

In opposite, win 8.1 is a much more performant OS then win7 on my system (which has the same components with win7 as with win8). So I do not think, win 10 would bring up any big issues.

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We actually do not know, until we run & test it. We have a diverse of equipment, both desktop as well as laptops, & it is actually quite silly trying to pre-empt amswers. Things will run differently for each of us, as we have already seen with guys camparing installs, GPU cards, FSx vs FSX:SE etc..

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Well, Vista was Windows version 6.0, Windows 7 is version 6.1, WIndows 8 is v6.2, Windows 8.1 is v6.3, and Windows 10 is version 6.4. So I would say there's a good chance it's going to be compatible. Improvements to networking and graphics came with Win8 as Guenter found.

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Don't know enough about Windows 10 or Hololens and how interrelated they are, but Hololens look interesting from a Flight Simming point of view.

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The one things that caught my ear during the Microsoft Windows 10 presentation yesterday was the free update to Windows 10 for all Windows 7 and 8 users.  It is likely this will motivate all the vendors that do not support their products on Windows 8 to support Windows 10.  

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FSX Gold, FSX SE, and P3D2.4 all run exceptionally well in Win10 Technical Preview (Build 9926).  I have the latest Win10 build on all my home-built PCs including my main machine and have all three simulators loaded.  The most significant observation, for me, is the complete elimination of the controller drop-out issue that plagued many using Win8/8.1.  With 100+ flights now completed using Win 10 (all builds starting with 9841) I haven't had a single joystick problem... and for me that's great news!

 

Windows 8/8.1 was actually lighter on resources than Windows 7 and FSX performance was on par and even slightly better, IMHO.  Win10 has been a bit better again, and this is still beta code.  I am very encouraged.  Of course, with the plethora of hardware configurations out there, YMMV.  At least for me, Win10 is shaping up to be an excellent OS release with regard to flight simulation.

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FSX Gold, FSX SE, and P3D2.4 all run exceptionally well in Win10 Technical Preview (Build 9926).  I have the latest Win10 build on all my home-built PCs including my main machine and have all three simulators loaded.  The most significant observation, for me, is the complete elimination of the controller drop-out issue that plagued many using Win8/8.1.  With 100+ flights now completed using Win 10 (all builds starting with 9841) I haven't had a single joystick problem... and for me that's great news!

 

Windows 8/8.1 was actually lighter on resources than Windows 7 and FSX performance was on par and even slightly better, IMHO.  Win10 has been a bit better again, and this is still beta code.  I am very encouraged.  Of course, with the plethora of hardware configurations out there, YMMV.  At least for me, Win10 is shaping up to be an excellent OS release with regard to flight simulation.

That is good to know, I may be ready to build a new system by the time Windows 10 is released.

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FSX Gold, FSX SE, and P3D2.4 all run exceptionally well in Win10 Technical Preview (Build 9926).  I have the latest Win10 build on all my home-built PCs including my main machine and have all three simulators loaded.  The most significant observation, for me, is the complete elimination of the controller drop-out issue that plagued many using Win8/8.1.  With 100+ flights now completed using Win 10 (all builds starting with 9841) I haven't had a single joystick problem... and for me that's great news!

 

That's good to hear and I hope confirmed by other Win 8 users.  I'm D/Ling 9926 as I type but not usrer how I will deploy it.  Among other things I need Windows Media Center on my HTPC machine and I don't know if Win10 is going to support WMC any more (MS seems to be content to let WMC die off).  Apparently people have used their Win 8 media center pack to add it to earlier Win10 builds, but after doing that Win10 wouldn't update any more as it showed a different build.

 

scott s.

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I'm thinking about buying an extra copy of Windows 7 for future use, even though I have no need currently.

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FSX Gold, FSX SE, and P3D2.4 all run exceptionally well in Win10 Technical Preview (Build 9926).  I have the latest Win10 build on all my home-built PCs including my main machine and have all three simulators loaded.  The most significant observation, for me, is the complete elimination of the controller drop-out issue that plagued many using Win8/8.1.  With 100+ flights now completed using Win 10 (all builds starting with 9841) I haven't had a single joystick problem... and for me that's great news!

 

Windows 8/8.1 was actually lighter on resources than Windows 7 and FSX performance was on par and even slightly better, IMHO.  Win10 has been a bit better again, and this is still beta code.  I am very encouraged.  Of course, with the plethora of hardware configurations out there, YMMV.  At least for me, Win10 is shaping up to be an excellent OS release with regard to flight simulation.

 

Thanks Doug. This is what I wanted to hear. I quit 8 and went back to  7, because of the controller dropout and no other reason. IMO, 8 is just a better version of 7 if you add a 3rd party start menu (Start 8, etc).

 

Now it's early days, but imagine using a desktop computer and screens only for the outside view; and sitting in a virtual flight deck that's a hologram. I think MS were very wise to make the HoloLens a see through setup. What is it they call it 'augmented reality'? Excellent idea. Not the first, I'm sure. But if they get it right, it will revolutionize not just flight sim, but also PC gaming. Try not to get myself too hyped up.

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I am an early adopter of OS and I am running it on my secondary computer. I love the new Windows 10 but I don't dare install it and then run FSX. I am a heavy user of 3rd party addons and there are developers such as PMDG who do not support Windows 8 or 10. Please consider this before replacing Windows 7 with  Windows 10. You may run into problems with complex addons. There was a simmer who was having issues with Windows 8 in the PMDG forums and they were told by PMDG support that that OS is not supported. 

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Installed (upgraded actually from Windows 7/64 bit Ultimate) to Windows 10 build 9926 as my primary OS, FSX, FSX-SE and P3D 2.4 all running fine.

all major add ons for FSX and P3d are installed and no issue what so ever (PMDG 777, 737) for example.

I left FSX-SE with no scenery addons and installed PMDG 777, DX10 fixer and Opus weather to enjoy a full flight to any where in the world with no OOM problems.

Joystick Saitek X-55 running with no single drop out on any simulator that I have so far.

 

Windows 10 looks very modern and elegant to me.

P.S. a full week now with no single BSOD on a test build, very impressive.

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penta_a - glad to see someone else with the same experience as me.  I am very encouraged in these early Windows 10 days!

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Good to see some members are starting to use Windows 10 and providing us information on its compatibility with FSX, FSX-SE, and P3D.  It will be good to know how compatible it is with X-Plane too but suspect some members will post that in the X-Plane forums.  Still it all looks promising!  I'm 99.9% sure I will be upgrading to Windows 10 when it is officially released as it will be free initially.

 

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Its great but i had win 10 on a removable drive and when it loaded it checked my other win 8 boot drive and commenced to fix my non existent disk errors and corrupted my drive beyond repair, lesson keep it seperate from other boot drives, luckly i had a very recent image

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Hi guys..I have a windows 10 upgrade question for those of you who have installed it....Like many others, I have a dedicated FSX PC and with just about all the saitek controllers and boxes plus Track IR running three screens. I use FSX with REX plus Orbx and lots of Carenado and PMDG / Aerosoft add ons.  I have spent hundreds of hours fine tuning my set up and am being constantly being reminded by windows to upgrade from my current windows 8 to 8.1. I recently upgraded my laptop with has windows 8 to 8.1 and it had no affect on my FS9 installation or other programmes. They all work fine without any reinstalls, I would like to upgrade my main rig to windows 10 and so my question is can I just select windows 10 as an upgrade or will I have to reinstall everything again. I would rather go without than have to do this. The main reason for the upgrade is I too have the occasional controller drop out.

 

Thanks in anticipation...Rob

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Yes, you can update your computer to Windows 10 and preserve everything you have.  I have done this on several machines and everything works as it should after the upgrade is complete.

 

However, I suggest you wait till the fall when Windows 10 releases since the Tech Preview (TP) release builds are beta software and there are no guarantees.  While I have successfully upgraded a couple machines, and my FSX/P3D installations worked just fine after the upgrade, there's no way to know you will enjoy the same good fortune with these beta builds.

 

If you really want to do this, then I suggest you do a complete image backup of your current Win8 machine onto an external drive so if the Win10 TP upgrade doesn't work, you can restore back to where you are now.

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Thanks very much for your help..I have FSX installed on its own drive plus mirror copies of it and my entire C drive backed up on externals. I know its a risk you take when you upgrade the operating system, but at least feed back from guys like yourself help with the final decision. I will wait for the main release of W10 but will definitely give 8.1 a miss after reading about compatibility issues and DX10.

 

Thanks again..Rob

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Yes, you can update your computer to Windows 10 and preserve everything you have.  I have done this on several machines and everything works as it should after the upgrade is complete.

 

However, I suggest you wait till the fall when Windows 10 releases since the Tech Preview (TP) release builds are beta software and there are no guarantees.  While I have successfully upgraded a couple machines, and my FSX/P3D installations worked just fine after the upgrade, there's no way to know you will enjoy the same good fortune with these beta builds.

 

If you really want to do this, then I suggest you do a complete image backup of your current Win8 machine onto an external drive so if the Win10 TP upgrade doesn't work, you can restore back to where you are now.

That was my question, too. Since the early days, it has been the unwritten law that no OS can be updated (even though it claims it can be), and that the ONLY way to upgrade your system (especially Windows) is to do a re-format and fresh install of the new OS...after which, of course, you have to rebuild EVERYTHING.  I have just gone through the comparatively simple task of un-installing FSX and re-installing FSX SE, and in a little over a month, I am still trying to make things work.

 

So, (and is the upgrade from 7 to 10 really free?), can I safely do an update from 7 to 10 and still have my new FSX SE, with my A2A and PMDG aircraft, working properly? If I need to do a complete new install, I'll be sticking with Win 7 until my machine dies. But if I can put the DVD in the slot and say "Update to Win 10" safely, I'm game.

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The update from 7 to 10 is really free, if you move the first year. Furthermore, it is for the life of the product. It's not like "ok...you have fun? now pay up".

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by chance has anyone tried x-plane 10 in windows 10 tech preview yet?

 

Have X-Plane running very nicely on Windows 10 :)

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Well, the free part is nice! But although I have enough room on my machine to dual-boot, I won't waste my time just yet. Looks like the real deal won't be out until next Fall, so we have about 6 months to watch the OS develop.  And I'm still not sure about the upgrade path vs. the "clean and fresh install" choice.  Everything is running (so far) very well on Win 7, and I'm getting too old to keep rebuilding FSX.

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i am now running the latest windows 10 tp 10041 and the latest nvidia driver 349.90 and p3d and xplane both run extremely well for me,i don't like the new windows update, but everything else i am really enjoying so far, the worse hassle is getting my keys for addons reset everytime i do an upgrade or make a hardware change,i won't use the sim market anymore for this very reason, after about 20 activations over the past year, i was told i have to buy the products i already own all over, thats just not good business.

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