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What's going on with P3D

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skywolf

 

Thanks, 19 pages and still laughing!!!  :Pumpkin:

 

Jack

 

Jack J Jackson

Castalla, Alicante, Spain

Yes I did submit my resume and they politely declined saying I was overqualified and too visionary for their capabilities,..

 

That's a novel way to reject some one!

Gerry Howard

Wow, we are all fortunate to have such expertise in our midst. B)

 

Ah..... I have only heard stories of this "Ron" character. Exciting to finally see the belittling sarcasm first hand. Like watching a live Kanye West concert. 

 

Seriously, he is a customer. Maybe with impractical expectations of the capabilities of the platform, but he is entitled to his expectation that this "next gen" sim platform that so many tout as being "better" than FSX would actually do so. Sadly, other than the eye candy, the platform has proved to have little performance benefit on modern hardware than the former. Guess that's what happens when a small simulation community puts faith in a multi billion dollar defense conglomerate. 

Let me guess.... you want 64bit. 

Josh Daniels-Johannson

All in good fun.  By now everyone that's been around awhile here pretty much fully understands all the pros and cons of P3D as it's been discussed here ad nauseum.  Improvements since 2.3 have been modest at best and IMO it's pretty much stuck where it is until DX12 and 64 bit come into play.  Wake us up when this happens, and for now I do appreciate having what I have w/ P3D.


Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

No biting intended folks. :rolleyes:

If anything, here's hoping the comments are helping folks appreciate what actually is in place rather than pressuring LM to provide the "pie in the sky" expectations of a few.

Seriously, he is a customer.

 

We are all customers that doesn't mean we know how to develop a flight simulator - any more than we know how to develop a car engine.

 

A multi billion dollar defense conglomerate will react to the needs of its commercial customers - not to the needs of a small simulation community

Gerry Howard

 

 


If anything, here's hoping the comments are helping folks appreciate what actually is in place rather than pressuring LM to provide the "pie in the sky" expectations of a few.

 

Come on Ron, 64-bit software is a "pie in the sky" expectation?


 

 


A multi billion dollar defense conglomerate will react to the needs of its commercial customers - not to the needs of a small simulation community

 

Gerry, what you say is, of course, completely true. but do you really believe that out of all LM's commercial P3D customers, even the least geekiest of the lot, that not a single one of them has said 'oh, it's 32-bit? any chance of a 64-bit version in the future?' to which the LM Rep has replied 'nope'?

Neil Andrews.

Fight or Flight - YouTube | Twitter

 

All in good fun. 

 

"Improvements since 2.3 have been modest at best"

 

Spot on Noel at best might be being kind - but the alternative is unacceptable at least for me

Rich Sennett

               

If anyone in here works for a flight school - you can come very handy

 

We need that person to complain to LM stating that their Commerical Sim's are having VAS issues and need to be fixed asap.  We hobbyist just need to proxy our suggestions through LM's commercial partners.  We as a group can buy beer for our commercial friends.  Beer solves lot of communication problems between friends, or business clients etc.

 

 

Gerry, what you say is, of course, completely true. but do you really believe that out of all LM's commercial P3D customers, even the least geekiest of the lot, that not a single one of them has said 'oh, it's 32-bit? any chance of a 64-bit version in the future?' to which the LM Rep has replied 'nope'?

 

Lockheed Martin has always said 64-bit is on the "roadmap."  Lockheed Martin will deliver it if sufficient of its commercial customers need it.

 

Also, geeks general don't control company's policies. Geeks don't decide whether companies will when to use Windows 10 - free or not.

Gerry Howard

 

 


A multi billion dollar defense conglomerate will react to the needs of its commercial customers - not to the needs of a small simulation community

 

Which underscores prior comments I've made that we are in essence paying beta testers for their commercial base, which is fine if you like that sort of thing, but I've lost interest in that myself, hence I've stuck w/ 2.3 which works quite well overall.  I do feel for the 3PDs who have to keep updating installers with every release.   I've been waiting 3 years now for an installer for FTX KJAC, posted about this just a day ago at ORBX and was advised 'soon', after which I lost patience and followed another's suggestion he had good luck w/ EMT and KJAC. I did end up doing that whereupon FTX Central was corrupted beyond loading.  Very fortunately for me rolling back to my last system restore point fixed FTX Central while at the same time KJAC is now installed.  That's even more hassle than I'm interested in but alas, I lucked out and didn't need to do anything more exotic to fix the issue.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

 

 


Geeks don't decide whether companies will when to use Windows 10 - free or not.

 

Alright, I'll ask again without the part that clearly distracted you.

do you really believe, that out of all LM's commercial P3D customers, not a single one of them has said 'oh, it's 32-bit? any chance of a 64-bit version in the future?' to which the LM Rep has replied 'nope'?

Neil Andrews.

Fight or Flight - YouTube | Twitter

As usual, what you don´t have in your head you have to have in your legs/hands. Have NEVER had any problems updating to ANY new version of P3D AND still i´m a Swede!!!!!!! But again.... if you read the licence agreements it adresses serious users NOT kids!!!!!

 

 

Jack

then Swede in Spain

Jack J Jackson

Castalla, Alicante, Spain

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