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I think that ORBX is positioning themselves to be a preeminent consultant to the likes of both DTG and LM.  ORBX has created ground-breaking scenery and now with their added new tech that will show up in later on, they will become an integral part of a much bigger picture.


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What did John V say? Not everyone has access to OrbX forums.

Edit: Already answered.  :wink:

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Don't expect any developer will ever invest millions of dollars and years of work and research just to market a professional simulator for an entertainment price, when their target audience, despite all our wishful thinking, is still a bunch of passionate users with a negligible share within the gaming market

 

But you're not taking something important into account there.

Titles such as GTA V cost the money they do because of the enormous content they provide. A flight simulator doesn't have to do that, in fact, all current simulators rely on other companies selling after market products to make their simulator engines shine. All we need the simulator designers to do is provide a decent engine on which to build. That's a lot cheaper.

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barrel_owl -

But you're not taking something important into account there.

Titles such as GTA V cost the money they do because of the enormous content they provide. A flight simulator doesn't have to do that, in fact, all current simulators rely on other companies selling after market products to make their simulator engines shine. All we need the simulator designers to do is provide a decent engine on which to build. That's a lot cheaper.

 

I will not even waste time repeating why a flight simulator is much much much more than simply "a decent engine". The are lots of potentially amazing new engines out there, fact is they are not intended nor are supposed to be used at any time for flight simulation. In short, John Venema pretty much sums up my thought.

 

If you really think that it will be cheap, then try to knock at Microsoft's, Lockheed Martin's or any other developer's door and see what they will tell you. Provided they will ever open up that door and waste five minutes of their precious time to hear your request.

 

But you are obviously entitled to dream. After all, dreaming is free.

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Thanks for the video link. It is very good.

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Great video...

 

Every sim will have room for improvement, but DTG has definitely "kicked" the ball forward. They are in the business of building sims and I think they have positioned themselves to be the "leader" in the flight sim world.

 

Flight School (IMO) has the right balance for the new "younger" simmers, and their full release will capture the rest; DTG is attracting new users and growing their base.  DTG's flight school is what MS Flight should have been years ago; narrowing down the scope while keeping the core intact.

 

Yes, I want to see a flawless and super smooth flight sim, but you can't get there without a dedicated developer with the resources to deliver, and this is where I think DTG has LM and LR beat.

 

  1. Their platform is on steam for seamless updates

  2. They have a scenery partnership where I don't have to worry about integrating and updating (I hope they can they partner with REX).

  3. They are not off on the side building sims on mobile devices further diverting their resources from the PC product.

I have DTG's train sim, and no...it is not perfect, but it is getting better all of the time. IMO, it is the best train sim you are going to find. I am sure that DTG will also dominate the flight sim world and I look forward to what they are going to introduce to this market.

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Just saw that on AirdailyX. My question is why didnt they just get that guy to make their original trailer? Thats 10x better than what they originally put out. 


Let me guess.... you want 64bit. 

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What do you expect to hear from a company who says their "Eggs are firmly in one basket"?  :Ying Yang:

 

Interesting. I still keep seeing FSX with Orbx ground textures, though. Not by any means bad but..... I've kinda been there and done that.......

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Interesting. I still keep seeing FSX with Orbx ground textures, though. Not by any means bad but..... I've kinda been there and done that.......

 

Most of us here have, I dont think we were ever the ones meant for this first product from them anyway. Although I see a little bit more than just FSX in there, especially when he looks at the exterior of that Piper


Let me guess.... you want 64bit. 

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What do you expect to hear from a company who says their "Eggs are firmly in one basket"?  :Ying Yang:

 

What they said actually is what I expected them to say. But they have had a look at the Outerra engine. If someone like John Venema, with that many (technical) experience in the flight simulator world, states the Microsoft engine is the better choice I believe that  :wink:


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What they said actually is what I expected them to say. But they have had a look at the Outerra engine. If someone like John Venema, with that many (technical) experience in the flight simulator world, states the Microsoft engine is the better choice I believe that  :wink:

 

Well, I know they looked at it several years ago but that seems to be it.

 

The comments he's made regarding certain flaws in the scenery like only one type of tree, etc make it clear he hasn't kept up with developments since that time which is'nt surprising in an FSX-centric ecology.

 

DTG itself I believe, seems aware that the current FSX based ecology has small interest in major and risky retooling for something unproven and truly new. The tried and true route is the safe route, and looking at Flight School, you can see even a new player like DTG chooses not to tread very far from safe and proven FSX tech shores.

Withe these legacy facts on the ground and 10 years of FSX inertia, its seems less and less likely that anything but re-warmed FSX will ever be on the plate unless something from left field forces a paradigm change.


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If you really think that it will be cheap, then try to knock at Microsoft's, Lockheed Martin's or any other developer's door and see what they will tell you. Provided they will ever open up that door and waste five minutes of their precious time to hear your request.

 

You're really getting the wrong end of the stick here old boy. I said "cheaper" NOT "cheap".

If you added DTG's Laminar's and Lockheed Martin's budgets together you wouldn't come any where near the $170 Million spent on GTA V.

My point was, they don't need to spend that kind of money, they do need to spend the time on the development of their respective engines, less so the content.

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