Have read a few comments how XEnviro is a definite winner for Jetliners but SMP4 may be better for GA VFR. Can any users with both products indicate which is the more immersive product below 20K feet? Thanks.

http://www.avsim.com/topic/499839-skymaxx-pro-v4-coming-tomorrow/?p=3530379

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/499839-skymaxx-pro-v4-coming-tomorrow/?p=3530379

 

 

Nice Shill -  If any xEnviro dev were on here doing that I'm sure it would be removed pretty quickly. 

I had an amazing flight today in Valencia, Spain, where the weather was unusually crappy (or maybe I just don't know the Spanish weather patterns) and xEnviro.  IFR with near zero visibility. Rain hitting the windshield.  Wipers on.  Cross winds. It was a jaw dropping flight, and my standards are based on P3D and AS16.  This was better.  When I finally saw the runway lights at 500 feet or so (no lights shining through the clouds for me--I had to descend a lot before they were visible), I let out a whoop of joy.  BTW, coming from P3D, the runway lights and sloped runways in XP11 are amazing.

If any xEnviro dev were on here doing that I'm sure it would be removed pretty quickly.

It was intended for a single person asking about capability. I felt the screenshots showed our side. One post, we'll all live, I'm quite sure!

Here are some default clouds I played around with:

 

 

 

 

 

 A few shots for xEnviro 1.04 FL 300

 

 

 

 

Wow, superb shots of xEnviro!  Am going to purchase it soon. :wink:

 

 

Nice Shill -  If any xEnviro dev were on here doing that I'm sure it would be removed pretty quickly. 

 

It would be nice if an xEnviro developer appeared at all. 

It would be nice if an xEnviro developer appeared at all. 

 

Do they have to? They are quite active on Facebook and x-plane.org. And they listen to what customers say! I think this is sufficient.

Do they have to?

 

For me personally yes. They have a lot of potential customers right here on this forum who can't decide whether they should fork out their $70 on this or SMP v4 and RWC. I did ask them a few questions on one of their threads and it went ignored, and that for me is not something I take lightly to if they want me to fork out that sort of money.

 

Maybe we only have a small but growing X-Plane forum here, but there are also a lot of FSX/P3D users who are wanting to use X-Plane 11 and need a weather engine, and to me it would make good business sense ;-)

 

I'm still amazed nobody is shouting loudly about not being able to set their own weather (I'm not talking about historical weather on their roadmap), this is one feature that if potentially done correctly could win over a lot of users.

 

 

I'm still amazed nobody is shouting loudly about not being able to set their own weather (I'm not talking about historical weather on their roadmap), this is one feature that if potentially done correctly could win over a lot of users.

 

I fully agree that setting your own weather + historical weather would be a very nice feature and for some people it might be crucial. However, I personally am just so amazed with what xEnviro can already do in its current state that I don't feel the need to "shout loudly".

 

The weather in X-Plane has always been vastly inferior to FSX/P3D. That was always a reason to go back to P3D. Not anymore. In my personal opinion, xEnviro is on par with ASN/AS16. Together with Ortho4XP I see almost no reason anymore to go back to P3D. If only FSL would bring the A320-X to X-Plane...

 

 

However, I personally am just so amazed with what xEnviro can already do in its current state that I don't feel the need to "shout loudly".

 

I am actually seriously thinking of getting it, but it defeats the point of buying the product when I will have to continually switch it off. Especially if I like flying in Norway and Alaska :-)

I am actually seriously thinking of getting it, but it defeats the point of buying the product when I will have to continually switch it off. Especially if I like flying in Norway and Alaska :-)

indeed thats whats holding me back aswell. during the winter which is the most time i have flying i dont want to fly just in good weather zones

I am actually seriously thinking of getting it, but it defeats the point of buying the product when I will have to continually switch it off. Especially if I like flying in Norway and Alaska :-)

 

Yep , at least in Alaska the weather changes in minutes.  really need manual weather adjustment but i don't mind the real wind.

I am actually seriously thinking of getting it, but it defeats the point of buying the product when I will have to continually switch it off. Especially if I like flying in Norway and Alaska :-)

I do not like the $70.00 for the fork-out, any better than the next guy...but frankly, nothing excites me about SMP 4.0.  I do love the cloudscape(s) in  Xenviro,  and I have never used historical weather, only 'on demand'.  I think that I am also leaning for the Xenviro.  Shame...have been an SMP guy from the start.  The clouds look the same quite frankly as in V3...wrap around the x/y the same, etc.  Still sitting in the bush, but...the bush is closer to the Xenviro camp at the moment....