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It is literally 2/7th the price of the PMDG 747

Ad if you buy it via Flight1 new purchase portal before January 1st it 5/21st the price the PMDG 747! FYI that's less than a quarter

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4 minutes ago, JLuis said:

What is the complexity of this aircraft compared to PMDG 747?

Can't answer that yet since It's just been released but here's a link to a pretty in depth review of the last version 

 

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12 minutes ago, JLuis said:

What is the complexity of this aircraft compared to PMDG 747?

No offense to iFly (and not to sound like a PMDG-fan-boy) but I highly doubt it's on par or even comparable.

My personal philosophy in life is, that you get what you pay for.

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Have you tried other Ifly products?  They are very good and an outstanding value.  I usually fly the Ifly 737NG rather than the PMDG 737NG and own both.

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The iFly 747 is a very good product, especially for the price.  The only reason I invested in the PMDG 747 was that I wanted the freighter variants... as a passenger 747 I was perfectly satisfied by the iFly version.  Does it have every bell and whistle of the PMDG version?  No.  But it’s still a very good aircraft.

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1 hour ago, Anders Bermann said:

No offense to iFly (and not to sound like a PMDG-fan-boy) but I highly doubt it's on par or even comparable.

My personal philosophy in life is, that you get what you pay for.

No offense should be taken, you're just offering your opinion.

Having extensively flown and painted both ...I feel they are both outstanding renditions of the Queen. (ok...I've got 50 times the painting hours in them vs flight hours...its a disease)

The literal Achilles Heal for the iFly version is they did not release a freighter, and as you may have noticed my preference is freighters so I prefer PMDG's offering.  I even queued-up several for the iFly bird in hopes they would release one...

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Sadly their model had windows coded into the model and there was no way to blank them out so I could at least make my paints look like a BCF.

PMDG released a freighter model out of the gate, with outstanding features we all appreciate for cargo-ops.

So based on that, and you're a freighter guy...PMDG is the way to go.  There is nothing bad about the passenger model iFly produced...it is a great product and I thoroughly enjoyed flying her...and for folks on a limited budget, its a great deal! 

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1 hour ago, diajohn said:

Have you tried other Ifly products?  They are very good and an outstanding value.  I usually fly the Ifly 737NG rather than the PMDG 737NG and own both.

Can u explain why u fly the Ifly 737 more then the NGX.  I have been looking at it for an alternative to the NGX. This is going to sound petty but after using the Zibo and IXEG 737’s in Xplane the VC window geometry of the NGX drives me nuts.

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59 minutes ago, Steve Dra said:

Sadly their model had windows coded into the model and there was no way to blank them out so I could at least make my paints look like a BCF.

Talking to Jannie the updated models should all have the ability to plug windows.  I haven't tried to verify it however.

 

As to comparinf to PMDG. If you don't own both you shouldn't compare because you have no reference to compare the two except for assumptions and you should know by now what they say about the word assume.  Systems wise, highly accurate, I find stuff I relay it and they fix it.  They are more receptive to change than PMDG.  All I got from them was questioning my creditials and then my intelligence after.  They still have basic stuff messed up in PMDG.  However I fly freighters so I had to invest in it also.  The -400 iFly nailed.  The -8 there are definitely some limitations that I tried to get them to hammer out however not everything has been addressed. Funny thing is the most glaring one that ticks me off is the same one PMDG decided not to model for their $80 addon to an add-on. And that's the Flap extension deceleration points.

Btw, Leonardo sells their MD-80 for what $50 less than the PMDG 747 and it's just as accurate a simulation.

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21 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

but after using the Zibo and IXEG 737’s in Xplane the VC window geometry of the NGX drives me nuts.

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The window geometry in the NGX is absolutely annoying. Hopefully, they fix that in NGX v3.

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I preferred the iFly 737 because they had a cockpit builders edition that suited my needs.  It was the best bang for the buck and has all the most used features simulated.  Their 747 variant is also outstanding.  You can't always assume that more $$$$ means better quality.  That is a huge misnomer.

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3 hours ago, Anders Bermann said:

No offense to iFly (and not to sound like a PMDG-fan-boy) but I highly doubt it's on par or even comparable.

My personal philosophy in life is, that you get what you pay for.

It's much better than that. MUCH better. It's not PMDG but it's only a little less.

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3 hours ago, Anders Bermann said:

No offense to iFly (and not to sound like a PMDG-fan-boy) but I highly doubt it's on par or even comparable.

My personal philosophy in life is, that you get what you pay for.

For once we agree on something anders

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46 minutes ago, carlito777 said:

Hopefully, they fix that in NGX v3

I won't be buying the version 3. I bought version 2 twice.

'Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!' 😀

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2 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said:

It's much better than that. MUCH better. It's not PMDG but it's only a little less.

It's is a study level sim? Or the other buzzword that's banded about? 

 

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6 minutes ago, tooting said:

It's is a study level sim? Or the other buzzword that's banded about? 

 

I don't know what's a "study sim", really... It's got all the nice features in the FMC (holds, SIDs, STARs, fuel calc, etc etc), all switches operate and react as the real ones, it just doesn't look as polite, not as good framerate and the flight model is probably not as accurate as PMDG's. I'm talking about the -400, i didn't purchase the -8.

 

EDIT: I just noticed it's bundled with the SP. Maybe i'll try it out (i have the PMDG version).

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6 minutes ago, tooting said:

It's is a study level sim? Or the other buzzword that's banded about? 

 

Again if you don't have the product maybe you should try not labeling what it is or isn't. Yes it's "Study Level".  The systems and navigation equipment are elaborately modelled  as well as system failures.  Flight dynamics are modelled after real performance tables.

Biggest difference between the two...the PMDG 747 rumbles and shakes going down the runway.  🙄

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I don't know if there is consensus on the definition of study level.  The Ifly features multiple or single failure at specified or random intervals of many systems.  It also has a high quantity of functions that can be assigned to keys or home cockpit controllers.  Now does it have a Boeing approval like PMDG, then no, but then neither is certified for flight training.   

Today it is $49 while PMDG is $149 + 49 for the -8.  Now you do get the freighter for that extra money.

 

John

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3 hours ago, Anders Bermann said:

No offense to iFly (and not to sound like a PMDG-fan-boy) but I highly doubt it's on par or even comparable.

My personal philosophy in life is, that you get what you pay for.

Better change your philosophy. It will save you a lot of money in your life...

You are saying that if iFly would sell their plane for twice the price of the PMDG version it it would be way better as it was more expensive.

In the past I have compared the iFly 737 cockpit builders Edition with the PMDG 737 and while the PMDG has a more fancy looking GUI, more failures and a nicer looking compassie, the iFly was feeling more real..

Btw : the iFly cockpit builders Edition was 599 euro so in your terms at least 6x as good as the PMDG...

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I also have no idea what the buzzwords mean. But I know the pmdg and fsl are high quality, the aerosoft airbus is medium to high quality and then the BBS and aerosoft crj being low quality. 

I've never been one for fluffy words. I say it as it is.  You get what you pay for. 

If you fly on my airline and pay for economy you get a small seat and a average meal. 

If you pay a little more  to sit in premium economy you get a slightly bigger seat and the same meal but with a China plate. 

If you pay alot more you get to sit in first with a flat bed,  a bar,  and a good selection of food, cheese boards, salt and pepper pots, a limo to the airport, a lounge etc etc 

The gap In price from a economy to premium economy ticket is a few hundred quid, the gap between eco to upper is 1000s and 1000s

A easy concept to understand 

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5 minutes ago, tooting said:

I also have no idea what the buzzwords mean. But I know the pmdg and fsl are high quality, the aerosoft is medium to high quality and the BBS and aerosoft crj being low quality.  

I've never been one for fluffy words. I say it as it is. 

You mean : you say it as you think as it is ....

Just like any of us : an opinion..

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28 minutes ago, GSalden said:

You mean : you say it as you think as it is ....

Just like any of us : an opinion..

The pmdg as far I remember flys in a straight line. Remember the crj?? 

As for the ifly we shall see.  Do ifly make products for xplane?? 

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