When something sounds too good to be true, it usually is. I'll wait for the first reviews before making any big statements.

2 hours ago, Beardyman said:

End of P3D is on the horizon. 

Really? For VFR flyers perhaps. But at 6 miles up in a Boeing or Airbus why stream scenery you cannot see? P3D still has a place in flight sim.

Just now, Ray Proudfoot said:

Really? For VFR flyers perhaps. But at 6 miles up in a Boeing or Airbus why stream scenery you cannot see? P3D still has a place in flight sim.

Have you seen the new weather systems and cloud lighting? pretty significant for most airline simulations, makes the cruise a bit more enjoyable something I feel is very lacking in the legacy fsx/p3d world

But FWIW I agree, P3d like all the sims will have a place and hopefully LM will release a v5 which has something else to give

1 hour ago, sanh said:

No. The Microsoft guy in the Q and A said no subscription and no micro payments.

Good to know...i was just quoting what I heard in the video when he said he asked the panel about pricing/subscription at the 25:23 mark...said they weren't prepared to answer anything about pricing or subscriptions as no decision has been made.  But I wasn't there, so just going by what he said in the video.

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LM will change all of it when their clients buying fleet of military jets ask them that they need prepar3d to have fancy graphics like msfs2020 lol.  

1 hour ago, kand said:

Have you seen the new weather systems and cloud lighting? pretty significant for most airline simulations, makes the cruise a bit more enjoyable something I feel is very lacking in the legacy fsx/p3d world

But FWIW I agree, P3d like all the sims will have a place and hopefully LM will release a v5 which has something else to give

Yes I have. But switching to a new sim just for the weather is not something I would contemplate. I have lots of money invested in P3D. What would make a difference is if FS Labs did Concorde exclusively for that sim. But in some ways that would be illogical since it flies primarily over ocean at 10 miles up way above all weather. What benefits would that give me? A version for P3D v4/5 makes more sense.

I do agree the new sim should give LM a kick up the backside. Some significant improvements are required to shift me from v4.5.

An old quote attributed to Mark Twain comes to mind - 

"The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

While the new product looks interesting, there's a LONG path from tech alpha to RTM. The only evaluation that can be done at this time is purely speculative.

I don't see P3D or XP going anywhere in the near future. 3-4 years after RTM when all the hotfixes and bug fixes have been done - then it will be interesting. But to state NOW that P3D or XP is in trouble?

Humorous at best.

Vic

 

No info on 3 HUGE aspects:

• Seasons 
• ATC
• AI

Without these aspects the new MSFS will get boring fast. Reminiscent of MS Flight and FSW to a degree.

We have a beautiful rendering of the earth in Bing Maps or Google Earth (in VR its quite amazing), but Aviation has so much more to it than the beauty of it.

W/O these most important aspects P3D is not likely just going to fade away....time will tell.

MS/Asobo has a HUGE amount of work to do still, the way I see it.

2 hours ago, sanh said:

No. The Microsoft guy in the Q and A said no subscription and no micro payments.

In the video I saw they were unable to answer that question. That’s for the bean counters, not the development team. I would be very surprised if it wasn’t subscription-based given the costs of running servers with 2 petabytes of data.

They said there would be three options. Offline flying with limited graphics, cached scenery offering quality scenery for a given area and full-blown streaming.

I want to see the areas where the satelite data is lacking, to see what kind of solution they have come up.

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

But at 6 miles up in a Boeing or Airbus why stream scenery you cannot see?

You did see the shots from higher fllightlevels did you? You did see the atmospheric simulation model?

This is interesting. 

 

You've all heard the term "death by a thousand paper cuts". This will be "death by a thousand screen shots and videos". The mere fact that MS is behind the new sim will continue to have a chilling affect on all other flightsims and their add-ons.

Although I do agree with those who have said that the details behind the MSFS pretty face do matter, I find it difficult to accept that MS will release a half baked pile of eye candy, ala either DTG FSW or AFS 2. We will all get a clue about this if MS decides on going the early access route, which is generally a disaster. They should stick to a large closed beta with an NDA for all participants.

P3D isn’t dead! We’re getting Hot Fix 3 in 6 months.

25 minutes ago, Farlis said:

You did see the shots from higher fllightlevels did you? You did see the atmospheric simulation model?

None of the video I saw showed any aircraft at altitudes that I would be flying at.