November 8, 20196 yr 7 hours ago, ckyliu said: of a DC-3 on XP10 i thought it had 4 radials with a tricycle ......... for now, cheers john martin
November 8, 20196 yr PMDG makes great products but since I choose X-Plane over P3D, I fly the ZIbo 737 and the Toliss 319 and never considered going back. I purchased their Dc6 for x-plane 10 , but that was a disappointment. They even didn't bother tot upgrade it for x-plane 11. Jos
November 8, 20196 yr I recently did the same flight with the PMDG 737 NG on P3D V4, and with the ZIbo 738 on X-Plane 11. I must say that the latter was far more enjoyable. The VC interaction and the graphics are just vastly superior. Could be that doing non-normal stuff would have been possible only in the PMDG. But for a normal flights I'd prefer the Zibo. Paul Schmidt We're fools to make war on our brothers in arms.
November 8, 20196 yr Commercial Member 58 minutes ago, DavidP said: So much nastiness.... Well, they did ruffle a few feathers. I remember when they announced they would come to X-Plane, everyone was very happy about it. Then "things" happened.
November 8, 20196 yr There are many great aircraft for x-p 11 out now....... Toliss A319, Hotstart TBM with the best G1000 i have seen in flight sim, LES Saab when the next patch comes out - that said it's pretty good right now, MilViz Turbo C310r......the list goes on. Lots more could be listed here. Dave
November 8, 20196 yr 9 hours ago, GoranM said: And the flight sim world keeps turning, as always. Good one. I roll my eyes at the self-proclaimed prophets signaling an end to the 'other' sims when that 'Alpha-State Sim' comes to market. Not to mention the sheep/cattle/goat mentality when PMDG speaks or launches something. I have nothing negative towards them (I own a copy of the 737NGX), but it seems many bow down to them. LR, LM, AF2, etc. will carry on. I think.😁 i7-9700K, MSI Z370, PNY 4070 Super, GTX 750Ti, 32GB GSkill, 43" curved Samsung, 32" BenQ, 11" LED, RealSImGear GTN750, Win10, P3DV5.4/P3DV6 and MSFS, several GoFlight modules, Saitek radio, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Virtual Fly TQ6.
November 8, 20196 yr 15 hours ago, Colonel X said: Real story: they finally realised you can't code for X-Plane using MS Excel. God what a sad bunch. Talking about their development as if it were NASA, give me a break. You've got zero idea about add-on development for MSFS and X-Plane, correct? 7950X3D + 7900 XT + 64 GB + Linux | 4800H + RTX2060 + 32 GB + Linux My add-ons from my FS9/FSX days
November 8, 20196 yr 23 minutes ago, Bjoern said: You've got zero idea about add-on development for MSFS and X-Plane, correct? Not correct, why? - Currently giving X-Plane 12.10 a spin on Shadow PC. 10 years with X-Plane now, since 10.20
November 8, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, Colonel X said: Not correct, why? Because that's the dumbest statement I've read in a while. 7950X3D + 7900 XT + 64 GB + Linux | 4800H + RTX2060 + 32 GB + Linux My add-ons from my FS9/FSX days
November 8, 20196 yr 15 hours ago, Colonel X said: I think "we failed miserably" would be an honest evaluation of their X-Plane development. Develop a buggy plane nobody asked for and then state the market ain't there? Real story: they finally realised you can't code for X-Plane using MS Excel. God what a sad bunch. Talking about their development as if it were NASA, give me a break. You are absolutely right. But Robert has always been incredibly arrogant. Hope he’s right to bail on XP for an unknown quantity in another MS product, after the MS Flight debacle I don’t trust them. A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
November 8, 20196 yr 47 minutes ago, Bjoern said: You've got zero idea about add-on development for MSFS and X-Plane, correct? Well I'll just assume you're otherwise only reading Harvard dissertations and take it as a compliment. - Currently giving X-Plane 12.10 a spin on Shadow PC. 10 years with X-Plane now, since 10.20
November 8, 20196 yr Change the thread title please , make "PMDG is finished" Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus
November 8, 20196 yr 6 hours ago, vadriver said: i thought it had 4 radials with a tricycle ......... Whoops, I was thinking about the bird PMDG actually own rather than what they developed! 😳 Edited November 8, 20196 yr by ckyliu ckyliu, proud supporter of ViaIntercity.com. i5 12400F, 32GB, RTX4070, more in "About me" on my profile.
November 8, 20196 yr Moderator "Finished", I'd say they barely ever started on X-Plane, so they won't be missed much.
November 8, 20196 yr I think all this really means is that the only real experiment in ESP <-> XPlane crossover aircraft development has come to an end. It illustrates that the two platforms and their methodologies are enough different, at least in how FDE, modelling, and panel programming are done, that there truly isn't enough commonality in the skill sets needed to make a good add-on aircraft for each sim and to support/keep them viable through recurring platform update cycles. That's why there are virtually no add-on aircraft developers that do both. Each platform has its own ginormous list of idiosyncrasies and special development techniques, and very few folks can devote the time and resources to be successful at both. So viva la difference, everybody can thrive and keep moving in their own lanes. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
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