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10 minutes ago, kaha said:

I think there will be a change log also for content and scenery. Depending on that I will decide if I only upgrade the client or also content and scenery.

A propos, what's contained in content? Airplanes probably?

And what part of installation will overwrite the files where Aerosoft points to the folders where their addon xml files are stored?

Questions above questions....

Karl

Content - most likely needed for improvements to PBR 

Scenery - they've been making a lot of fixes to the new vector data

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2 hours ago, GSalden said:

That is true but I have a feeling that a full install will help the best with all issues that are present in HF1 and HF2..

 

That's my whole point 


 
 
 
 
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1 hour ago, kaha said:

I think there will be a change log also for content and scenery. Depending on that I will decide if I only upgrade the client or also content and scenery.

A propos, what's contained in content? Airplanes probably?

And what part of installation will overwrite the files where Aerosoft points to the folders where their addon xml files are stored?

Questions above questions....

Karl

There always had been change logs for all three components.

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15 hours ago, vvince said:

You don't have to uninstall the whole P3D application, but you have to uninstall / reinstall the separate components : uninstall /reinstall is needed for the client component but is optional for the content and scenery components.

https://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6322&t=120861

As for the add-ons : the one installed with the add-on.xml method should be fine, for the other one it depends...

Good luck.

 

 

OH MY GOD!

Now my head is in a spin. Without talking about changelog or pagefiles can someone just explain in really basic terms what I need to do and what happens with the add ons I've already bought?!

This is my first P3D product and I'm getting to the point of regretting it almost... Convince me otherwise...!

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2 hours ago, kaha said:

A propos, what's contained in content? Airplanes probably?

And what part of installation will overwrite the files where Aerosoft points to the folders where their addon xml files are stored?

Karl, the following information was for P3Dv4 but I guess it is still valid for V5. Here are the folders that are removed / updated by each component:

Install_ Client.msi - Licences, propdefs, Scaleform, ShadersHLSL, trinton

Install_ Content.msi - Scripts, redist, SimObjects, Weather, Scenarios, Ecosystem, Fonts, Autogen, Effects, gauges, Sound, Texture

Install_ Scenery.msi - Scenery


Remember, the installers will not remove or overwrite any files installed by 3rd parties UNLESS it is a p3d file that had been modified by the 3rd party. Nothing is deleted except native p3d files.

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10 hours ago, GSalden said:

The idea of LM was that with updates we could do partial updates meaning mostly only the Client.

This is the 3rd update in a row that we are advised to do a full install again.

If LM releases 2 updates a year and we would have to do 2 full installations + reinstalling several Addons than that is not a positive development to me ...

And indeed that I won’t do ..

I agree full re installations should not be necessary in fact even with a full re install you can still have a ton of issues once introducing all addons back in, I say follow LM instructions and if there are issues do the full re install only then. I have lots of little batch files for changing hardware, aircraft etc and its a real pain doing a full install and takes more than a few hours to get back to where it was


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4 hours ago, benwbriscoe said:

OH MY GOD!

Now my head is in a spin. Without talking about changelog or pagefiles can someone just explain in really basic terms what I need to do and what happens with the add ons I've already bought?!

This is my first P3D product and I'm getting to the point of regretting it almost... Convince me otherwise...!

@benwbriscoe It can sound pretty daunting, but since you've managed to get P3D V5 and various add-ons installed already, it should be pretty straight forward.

Basically, you'll download the 3 installer files and any of the additional .cab files that LM release:

  • Install_Client.msi,
  • install_Content.msi
  • install_Scenery.msi 
  • cont1.cab, scene1.cab, scene2.cab, etc.

Then from the Windows Start button, go to Settings > Apps and find Prepar3D v5 Academic Client in the list. Click the Uninstall option and it will start the uninstall program. It will ask you, if you want to deactivate your P3D v5 installation. Select NO for this. Then let the uninstaller do it's thing. Then you run the Install_Client.msi, and the Client component of the hot Fix will be installed. Then you do the same uninstall/install process for the Content and Scenery components.

That should be it! There shouldn't be any issues with your add-ons, but if there are, you can bet nearly everybody else with that add-on will have the same issue, so you'll see forum posts about it.

The upgrade instructions are  in the Updating Prepar3D v5 section: https://www.prepar3d.com/Prepar3D_Download_and_Install_Instructions_v5.pdf

Hopefully HF2 will address most of the issues about VRAM and things will become a lot more stable with this version. Then, hopefully you'll not need any convincing about P3D.

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18 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

They won't do a full installation  I'm afraid Simbol.  They like down and dirty quick fixes like a magic bullet theory. 

Alas I can't agree more, surely a full reinstall will be better in the long run but they will just skip it and do the client only you watch and we will have pages of topics on here about sims not starting,  sims disappeared from the desktop, ctds and all sorts.  You're talking to the wall mate, they won't do it. 

 

So true. As a MSFS Alpha tester, all I will say is save your cash for later this year... 

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47 minutes ago, gb09f said:

So true. As a MSFS Alpha tester, all I will say is save your cash for later this year... 

Flight Unlimited 4? FS World resurrected? Jacob's buying back the rights to CLUB biscuits, and giving us a proper Mint Club again with thick, dark chocolate?

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Lol.

As a MSFS Alpha tester, and as much as I love it, all I will say is that P3D will remain at least 2 more years on my computer and will continue to amaze me every day.

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If you have to buy all planes and airports again, then you will undoubtedly leave P3D for a long time.


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1 hour ago, gb09f said:

So true. As a MSFS Alpha tester, all I will say is save your cash for later this year... 

Please not another Microsoft fanbboy in a p3d forum - you probably don't get it ...

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28 minutes ago, ggerolamo said:

Please not another Microsoft fanbboy in a p3d forum - you probably don't get it ...

Thanks for saying this. I totally agree 


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1 hour ago, micstatic said:

Thanks for saying this. I totally agree 

I had my tongue tucked firmly in my cheek. I actually believe all the sim products cater to different enthusiasts. It's amazing that we have such a choice these days. Keep the blue side up. 

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3 hours ago, gb09f said:

So true. As a MSFS Alpha tester, all I will say is save your cash for later this year... 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me a break. So tired of this garbage on the P3D boards.  

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