Looks great for the price and as a stop gap while Asobo/AIG or whomever else creates something more complete. 

Of course real models would be better but this costs the price of 2 beers and makes the world a lot more interesting having live traffic with real liveries.

I'm in as soon as it's released.

^^ Just in time for the Xbox release too...that's shrewd business sense.

13 minutes ago, eaim1973 said:

Although this is welcome as a stop gap, until we get a better add on, whether it's payware or freeware, I'm a bit puzzled with this being a commercial product, surely they have the same legalities regarding the use of copyrighted liveries and company names as Microsoft do, yet Microsoft have continually stated that the middle sized airlines are too busy just staying afloat to be bothered about entering into agreements with a flightsim program, yet it seems that's exactly what Aerosoft has managed to do pretty easily. I hope Jorg can answer how things seem different for the relevant devs. 

This ^^^^

I'm in..  But will AI aicraft interact with ATC normally?  There seem to be an awful lot of them.. 

Pass. I can download a bunch of liveries and have pretty much the same thing. Yes the liveries will not align with the airports very well but considering I fly to mostly big airports in cities, even "random" will do for now.

10 minutes ago, Langeveldt said:

I'm in..  But will AI aicraft interact with ATC normally?  There seem to be an awful lot of them.. 

Probably just as well as FSX/P3D without using an app to speed up the ATC voice.

A complete pass considering the models and paints look terrible, most likely a money grab by a developer...

You might consider freeware available at flightsim.to...but it might not work for everybody.

Yes I said it...Darryl

 

49 minutes ago, eaim1973 said:

Although this is welcome as a stop gap, until we get a better add on, whether it's payware or freeware, I'm a bit puzzled with this being a commercial product, surely they have the same legalities regarding the use of copyrighted liveries and company names as Microsoft do,

Could also be a different legal opinion/risk tolerance.  Many payware addons (aircraft, AI traffic payware for previous sims, airport scenery with static aircraft) include liveries most likely without getting signed agreements with every airline represented.  I’ve assumed Microsoft being as big as it is won’t take the risk whereas others don’t worry about it.

Back on the product, the value proposition I see is that until something more complete is released, this will at least give me representative liveries on ugly default AI models rather than ugly liveries on ugly default models.  A small step up worth the price IMHO.

Edited July 26, 20214 yr by regis9

49 minutes ago, eaim1973 said:

Although this is welcome as a stop gap, until we get a better add on, whether it's payware or freeware, I'm a bit puzzled with this being a commercial product, surely they have the same legalities regarding the use of copyrighted liveries and company names as Microsoft do, yet Microsoft have continually stated that the middle sized airlines are too busy just staying afloat to be bothered about entering into agreements with a flightsim program, yet it seems that's exactly what Aerosoft has managed to do pretty easily. I hope Jorg can answer how things seem different for the relevant devs. 

I'm not so sure Aerosoft got all those authorizations... I just think the companies don't care so much about Aerosoft, as they would about Microsoft.  

2 hours ago, psolk said:

every AC has some sort of weird pointy nose.

They don't all have the weird pointy nose but some do for sure.  I'm thinking this will get changed soon, presumably by Asobo, and then this Simple Traffic will be updated.

Edited July 26, 20214 yr by Noel

1 hour ago, eaim1973 said:

surely they have the same legalities regarding the use of copyrighted liveries and company names as Microsoft do, yet Microsoft have continually stated that the middle sized airlines are too busy just staying afloat to be bothered about entering into agreements with a flightsim program, yet it seems that's exactly what Aerosoft has managed to do pretty easily. I hope Jorg can answer how things seem different for the relevant devs. 

I find this quite amazing that because Microsoft (or any1st tier partner speaking on their behalf) is saying something about their, and only their, licensing issues, everyone is assuming all other vendors are having the same licensing issues.

This reminds me the one accusing publicly RXP for selling illegal products in breach of another company EULA, and using this libelous argument to bare access to the market place and to deprive simmers from any product a 20 years old renowned vendor like RXP could be offering.

You can't assume one's motive and/or difficulties to securing licensing options (could just be as simple as to try cornering the market of AI add-ons in order to reserve the right to sell liveries pack DLC ala Forza but this is just speculation here) has anything to do with another one licensing agreements already in place. Aerosoft has been in the business of offering AI traffic with liveries for quite some time already, pretty much like we've secured similar agreements with our partners nearly 20 years ago already ( http://reality-xp.com/aboutrealityxp/pressroom/releases/2002/index.html )

Why not assuming instead that Aerosoft is in their own right and they know what they are doing licensing wise?

Edited July 26, 20214 yr by RXP

50 minutes ago, ca_metal said:

I'm not so sure Aerosoft got all those authorizations... I just think the companies don't care so much about Aerosoft, as they would about Microsoft.  

Jorg basically said as much during one of the monthly Q&As, massive mega bucks company like Microsoft would be too much a temptation to miss in the courts for hard hit airlines. 

2 hours ago, Noel said:

They don't all have the weird pointy nose but some do for sure.  I'm thinking this will get changed soon, presumably by Asobo, and then this Simple Traffic will be updated.

I doubt Asobo will completely replace their generic models, they'll just add the new ones along side them.

They'll still be used to represent planes the sim doesn't have

Edited July 26, 20214 yr by Tuskin38

In P3D I use AIG with FSPXAI models which are very detailed. No big franerate hit with PSXT + Real Traffic as at FT Schiphol  + TE NL I have always 70+ AI ac ….

Now Mathijs is stating that more detailed AI aircraft in MSFS have a big hit on performance !?!

1. Optimizes the framerate by using only the lowest polygon versions of the default MSFS AI models. Too detailed models for AI traffic, in our opinion, make it hard for complex scenery and super accurate aircraft to get enough resources.

I’ll be buying this. It’s real enough for my liking because I only occasionally fly on VATSIM and it won’t hurt the frames that much. Plus it’s pretty cheap.

Edited July 26, 20214 yr by Zcott