I too noticed the hard to read cockpit. I do use VR and a Reverb G2, but at the same setting everything was harder to read unless you zoomed in. I bumped up my resolution to 100% and now I can read things, but performance is back to where it was originally. So I lost any gains I may have had. So this patch was a wash for me.

Are Asobo suspending the improvements of the early beta release indefinitely, or are they giving the modders and 3PD a set time to get things in order?

Think they made the right decision, a whole load of the freeware mods breaking this week would not have been a good idea. Forums go Boom. Would be a shame to miss out on what the improvements could potentially offer though.

 

Edit: Seen in the JULY 29TH, 2021 DEVELOPMENT UPDATE that they use the phrase:

'We have temporarily reverted the LOD selection mechanism to its previous state on PC'

So shouldn't be too long before we start seeing those big improvements utilised. 

Edited July 29, 20214 yr by riverreveal

1 hour ago, VFXSimmer said:

EDITED:

The explanation is on page 1 of the thread.  At the last minute they Reverted back to the old method of culling objects without a defined level of detail set.  The new method (on the Xbox build & early beta) culls any object without a LOD set (basically a set of progressively lower res versions of an onbject) and doesn’t draw it all of its smaller than 5% of the screen size (eg the size of the popping taxiway signs in that leaked takeoff video).  The old version (which they reverted back to) culled at 0.5%

What thread? Did they give that explanation officially?

Edit: I just saw it on today's development update, on the SDK section.

Edited July 29, 20214 yr by ca_metal

9 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

MSFS is now set to the lowest common denominator, and that is what PC users will have to get used to.

Just wait til they nerf the pc AND Xbox versions to accommodate phones.  LOL

9 hours ago, captain420 said:

I for one have a pretty decent system

people with 3090's shouldnt say "decent".  what would that make the 2000 series lol

11 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

That is not at all why the quality rollback was issued, it was to make the sim compatible with X box, period. 

You're right Bob.   I think that is what is happening.   A lot of game developers do this to accommodate the inferior consoles.  I've seen the ports from consoles(and actually done on a PC system for that matter) to PC games and it is awful.  However, MSFS originally a PC developed PC sim is being downgraded for consoles which is very rare.   

3 minutes ago, F1Fan said:

You're right Bob.   I think that is what is happening.   A lot of game developers do this to accommodate the inferior consoles.  I've seen the ports from consoles(and actually done on a PC system for that matter) to PC games and it is awful.  However, MSFS originally a PC developed PC sim is being downgraded for consoles which is very rare.   

I think they looked at the active simmers like us, and the income potential versus the vast number of people on Xbox, and that is what the thinking about MSFS 2020 in the first place. Simmers are a Niche of a Niche market, X boxers on the other hand  are a mass market. 

1 hour ago, Brandon01110 said:

Just wait til they nerf the pc AND Xbox series x/s versions to accommodate phones.  LOL

You mean Xbox One.

Edited July 30, 20214 yr by jbdbow1970

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I think they looked at the active simmers like us, and the income potential versus the vast number of people on Xbox, and that is what the thinking about MSFS 2020 in the first place. Simmers are a Niche of a Niche market, X boxers on the other hand  are a mass market. 

I agree Bob.  No doubt about it.

1 hour ago, Brandon01110 said:

people with 3090's shouldnt say "decent".  what would that make the 2000 series lol

sub par? or half decent? lol

2 minutes ago, captain420 said:

sub par? or half decent? lol

I was watching a sim hangar video today comparing pre-post SU5 performance and he called 2080 Super and Ti's mid-range and I cringed a bit, but it's probably accurate since a 3070 was running equal to a 2080Ti in early benchmarks at release.   Too bad we can't buy a 3000 series without a 2-300% markup.  I'd really like to find a 3080Ti or 3090 or even a 6900XT for a decent price somewhere.

18 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I think they looked at the active simmers like us, and the income potential versus the vast number of people on Xbox, and that is what the thinking about MSFS 2020 in the first place. Simmers are a Niche of a Niche market, X boxers on the other hand  are a mass market. 

I'd say PC gaming qualifies as close to mass market these days and the PC figures thrown around for MSFS aren't piffling, but obviously Xbox is rather more mass market.

However an awful lot of those PC gamers won't be on fire breathing machines so many will be pleased with any tweak that ups their performance even if it narks the hot rod owners. 

I'll guess it's more about the game pass for them than sales. It's so different it may tempt people to sign up for it who otherwise wouldn't have. 

 

It’s a good thing the company behind this doesn’t make mission critical business software…

😛

Edited July 30, 20214 yr by Virtual-Chris

7 hours ago, Alpine Scenery said:

And that folks is just stuff I found added recently in various threads of peoples issues with this update over the last couple of hours.

Are these problems evident using the existing SDK (0.13) in SU5 dev mode when working with scenery? The reason I ask is that today’s development update seems to imply that the release of a new SDK version 0.14 is imminent- which (possibly) might address at least some of the problems you have highlighted. If you are already working with a newer SDK not yet publicly released, then that is more worrisome.

Edited July 30, 20214 yr by JRBarrett

I've just been fiddling with LOD stuff. I thought I could cheat and use the same model at each level.

I can but it adds the model again to the modellib which means a 5x increase in its size.

Some are way too big already so if the LOD thing does happen for PC I'll likely kill off any mod that's model heavy.

It would be several weeks of work. Servicing someone else's programming change is not a worthwhile use of my remaining time on earth. 

I wonder how many payware developers will wash their hands of their products too.

 This might be one change that doesn't happen.