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What does MSFS actually do during startup?

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53 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

I dont recall clicking FSX and wondering 20-30 seconds later " did I click it right or not?.....might have to click it again....!!!" becasuse nothing happens.......nothing to tell you for around 30 sec that you even started the damm thing......🤪

That's why I usually start the sim from within Addons Linker. For anyone unaware, there's a Launch Simulator button at the far right of the menu at the top of the screen. It confirms the sim has been started. Granted, that's not the sim itself telling you that, but it at least confirms the message has been sent to the program to launch. As I usually have Addons Linker running before launching the sim anyway, it's no hassle to use that method.

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2 minutes 41 seconds from pressing the button to ready-to-play for me, using a stopwatch.

This is with an empty community folder.

3 minutes 6 seconds with 151 items in the community folder, totaling 96.17GB

Compared to the interminable waits I remember from other sims, I'm not particularly perturbed.

 

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I don't mind that it takes a few minutes to load, what drives me nuts is when the music stops playing for 5 or 10 seconds and I think, "Oh oh, here comes a CTD."

Edited by dobee51

It’s probably doing something benign like co-opting your computer to mine Bitcoin for 5 minutes….

 


 

 

(tongue firmly in cheek of course lest anyone take me seriously)

Out of curiosity, what is the load behaviour / timing on the Xbox? Don't have one, but would be interesting to compare.

Edited by DylanM

It is very easy to find out what MSFS does during startup!

Just run PROCMON against the sim exe before starting MSFS.  You will then get a listing of EVERY single command executed.  

820,000 or so lines in the log to get to the World Map screen where we pick our flight.  Each line is a command generated by MSFS or the Windows response to a command. 

1.4 million lines to get to the Ready To Fly screen. 

I can assure you the the sim reads, reads again, and re-reads thousands of files over and over again. It is busy loading or verifying all the files it might use. 

I find no reference in the log to Community files until AFTER the World Map page/process of picking a flight and pressing FLY. 

And, occasionally, it issues a read (of various types) that require tens of seconds to complete.  That anomaly occurs less frequently with the latest updates. 

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I starting the sim and go out into the kitchen and brew a cup of coffee, it is usually ready at the same time.

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2 hours ago, dobee51 said:

I don't mind that it takes a few minutes to load, what drives me nuts is when the music stops playing for 5 or 10 seconds and I think, "Oh oh, here comes a CTD."

Kind of like playing musical chairs ......🙁😃

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, DylanM said:

Out of curiosity, what is the load behaviour / timing on the Xbox? Don't have one, but would be interesting to compare.

From what I recall in streams a few days before its official release, loading into the menu after the Press Any Button screen takes about the same time as a PC with similar specifications, however the long pause at the start (the shader caching process) is much shorter and only takes a few seconds. Which makes me hope DirectX 12 will eliminate this on PC too.

During that time, it also shows the unused splash screen which has always existed in the game's files.

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I’m actually thinking of starting a YouTube series on things I can get done while I wait for MSFS to start up. Perhaps will start with an omelette and eating it. 

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I hardly have anything in my Community folder, and SD on an SSD, and it takes about 2 minutes, so not bad at all. 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, ChaoticBeauty said:

During that time, it also shows the unused splash screen which has always existed in the game's files.

Has anyone explained why this splash screen does not appear when starting up the sim on a PC?

Any other application I run, tells me that it is active, only MSFS gives me several black screens, or simply nothing at all, when starting up.

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13 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

Has anyone explained why this splash screen does not appear when starting up the sim on a PC?

Not to my knowledge, and it's baffling because it should be such a simple thing to implement. In one of the early Q&A sessions, they explained that they were not aware the Press Any Key screen existed in the retail version because it was disabled in their developer build. Maybe theirs has the splash screen so they don't know that we don't have it?

Either way, make sure to vote here: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/splash-screen-please/216577

I use the batch file that's included with FSUIPC7. Immediately get a "Preparing your cabin" (that's funny) splash screen so I know the sim is loading. And being a batch file I can also load other programs/utilities, however I use "exe.xml" for that.

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