April 23, 20224 yr They picked off the low hanging fruit early, now they hit the hard stuff. It'll be awhile I suspect if they don't go broke first. CPU: Core i5-6600K 4 core (3.5GHz) - overclock to 4.3 | RAM: (1066 MHz) 16GB MOBO: ASUS Z170 Pro | GeForce GTX 1070 8GB | MONITOR: 2560 X 1440 2K
April 23, 20224 yr 10 minutes ago, WestAir said: Has IniBuilds said anything on the Airbus recently? I haven't seen any new posts about them on the forums lately. Their airbus is one of the planes I was most excited about, because they're so dang realistic and they love non-normal events just as much as I do. Looks awesome, I am expecting the A310 even more than the A320. On Discord, MJ posted 2 or 3 screenshots sometime ago, then said it was too early to show/tell more and we will get more info later on. They managed it quite well, didn't let the hype grow too much.
April 23, 20224 yr Commercial Member 14 minutes ago, bendead said: Looks awesome, I am expecting the A310 even more than the A320. On Discord, MJ posted 2 or 3 screenshots sometime ago, then said it was too early to show/tell more and we will get more info later on. They managed it quite well, didn't let the hype grow too much. That's what I'm looking forward the most to be honest the A310. I was never really an Xplane guy so never got to experience it in all its glory.
April 23, 20224 yr I've noticed throughout many forums that several people like to compare planes to the Fenix A320, like it's already been released. "Oh, that plane looks good, but it's nowhere near the complexity of the Fenix A320". Or, "Yeah, it's a middle ground representation of the systems of the plane, but nowhere near what Fenix is offering". I'm not going to lie, if I ran Fenix, I'd love all the praise. But the real question is, how does an unreleased product get so much praise, to a point where it's compared to actual products that are for sale? I've seen all the videos and screenshots and agree it does look good, but how it became the standard of "study level" planes and the pinnacle of payware straight-up confuses me, considering it's still in development.
April 23, 20224 yr going to be interesting to compare it to fsl version when it comes out I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
April 23, 20224 yr My guess is Fenix uncovered a lot of bugs after more beta testers joined the testing team. If the Fenix A320 is one of the most complex airliners to ever come out for a home market flight simulator, it makes sense that it also has the most bugs, if they are simulating all that complexity. And for those who expect it soon, I think their beta test will take the longest among the BAe 146, PMDG 737, and Leonardo Maddog. if you are new to software development, if you double the amount of code in your software, the number of bugs doesn’t just double. The number of bugs if you double the amount of code in your software will probably go up exponentially. This is because doubling the code usually means there are many more combinations of output, therefore the number of bugs goes up with the combination of outputs, which is probably an exponential factor. I would be really surprised if they released it before June. I wouldn’t even be surprised if it took them to August or longer. I think they are going to have a very long beta test phase because of the complexity of their aircraft. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
April 23, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, pete_auau said: going to be interesting to compare it to fsl version when it comes out FSL is the pinnacle of flight simming. Too bad 2 of their beta testers dropped out and joined the Fenix team. Take that for what its worth. These guys are going for the jugular. Edited April 23, 20224 yr by jbdbow1970
April 23, 20224 yr 34 minutes ago, abrams_tank said: I would be really surprised if they released it before June. I wouldn’t even be surprised if it took them to August or longer. One of the issue if Fenix takes too long to release, is the A320 from FBW. I could not fly on MSFS for the past month and a half, after that time, I updated the FBW and found that VNAV was working reasonably well, the new EFB looks awesome, the revisited texture look as good or better than the 737 from PMDG and the sound keeps improving. What will this freeware team be able to achieve over the next 2,3 or even 6 month?
April 23, 20224 yr Commercial Member 1 hour ago, bendead said: One of the issue if Fenix takes too long to release, is the A320 from FBW. I could not fly on MSFS for the past month and a half, after that time, I updated the FBW and found that VNAV was working reasonably well, the new EFB looks awesome, the revisited texture look as good or better than the 737 from PMDG and the sound keeps improving. What will this freeware team be able to achieve over the next 2,3 or even 6 month? That's true too, even more so if FBW decides to drop the CEO airframe ha! (pretty sure Fenix is doing the CEO)?
April 23, 20224 yr The Fenix A320 is currently under extensive beta testing. I've heard extraordinary things from the lucky few who have access to the airplane (some well-known content creators are among the beta testers). It's very actively under development and I'm pretty sure we're in for a treat!
April 23, 20224 yr I'm sure they'll get the hype train running full steam once they are even remotely close to release. Which they aren't, obviously. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
April 23, 20224 yr Folks let's wait for Aamir to update on this before jumping into conclusions and theories. AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 64GB DDR5 6000MHZ RAM, RX7900XT, FreeSync 165hz 1440p display
April 23, 20224 yr I think @abrams_tank above has put it in a very concise way of interpreting of the delay on this Fenix Project. It's way way better to see something appear from almost nowhere, and almost PERFECT, than to be flushed with useless marketing-like stuff ending in something that after all doesn't fulfil our expectations... ( no pun intended !!! Honestly !!! ) I just hope at the same time the Fenix A320 evoilves, the EXTRAORDINARY FBW continues to evolve if not for other reason because for me it is the reason why I use MFS ! Edited April 23, 20224 yr by jcomm Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
April 23, 20224 yr 8 hours ago, jbdbow1970 said: FSL is the pinnacle of flight simming. Too bad 2 of their beta testers dropped out and joined the Fenix team. Take that for what its worth. These guys are going for the jugular. Those two beta testers probably use MSFS these days, rather than P3D. Edited April 23, 20224 yr by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
April 23, 20224 yr 12 hours ago, Bdub22 said: But the real question is, how does an unreleased product get so much praise, to a point where it's compared to actual products that are for sale? I've seen all the videos and screenshots and agree it does look good, but how it became the standard of "study level" planes and the pinnacle of payware straight-up confuses me, considering it's still in development. I suppose there are good clues as to the complexity and high levels of fidelity in the aircraft they're developing, which then understandably leads to extrapolations by others like what you observe. Apart from their deep-dive previews of various features on https://fenixsim.com/blog/, I'd say the fact that it is based on https://prosim-ar.com/prosima320/ is a good indication of high fidelity (which is a term I much prefer to "study level")... as always, proof will be in the pudding. And given that it is Fenix's first ever release of an aircraft, they're going to be extra careful in getting it right for first impressions given the tough simulation crowd that usually purchase high fidelity aircraft. Edited April 23, 20224 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
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