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PMDG 737 - flight planning not great, otherwise seems good

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5 minutes ago, DAD said:

simbrief - not as simple as importing like with the FBW but use the simbrief downloader and it puts the .rte file in the PMDG folder and then you can select and load the FP from within the FMS

I was going to point out the same, if you set up the simbrief Downloader with the right directories (the manual gives you that Info) you can load the simbrief route using the CO RTE function.  No need to type out entire routes.

7 minutes ago, DAD said:

LNAV - working flawless here with SIDs and STARs, no issues at all

Just curious if your SIDS had some with tight turns, complicated procedures etc?  I’m going to try more out but I’m interested to see what others are experiencing.  Mine was KSLC 30R SPTNS1.VLREE SID if anyone wants to give it a try and see how it works.

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I don't have the 737 yet, waiting for Early Adopter feedback.😀

I noticed in the video below, which appears to be an ILS into Renton, that on the Pilot's side of the cockpit there are 2 'info screens', for want of a better term.

 

The left hand one is showing the usual speed & altitude data, but the right hand one of the pair is showing data I have not seen before.

In particular, there appears to be in the bottom half of the RHS screen a side view of a glideslope.

If that is correct, does it show the aircrafts position on that glideslope as the aircraft descends for the landing?

And does the 'glideslope' view come standard with the 737-700, or is it a 3rd party avionics add on?

Thanks

T45

 

4 minutes ago, Treetops45 said:

I don't have the 737 yet, waiting for Early Adopter feedback.😀

I noticed in the video below, which appears to be an ILS into Renton, that on the Pilot's side of the cockpit there are 2 'info screens', for want of a better term.

 

The left hand one is showing the usual speed & altitude data, but the right hand one of the pair is showing data I have not seen before.

In particular, there appears to be in the bottom half of the RHS screen a side view of a glideslope.

If that is correct, does it show the aircrafts position on that glideslope as the aircraft descends for the landing?

And does the 'glideslope' view come standard with the 737-700, or is it a 3rd party avionics add on?

Thanks

T45

 

That's the Vertical Situation Display (VSD) - It graphically represents a view of the vertical profile of the plane.

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39 minutes ago, tfm said:

lol right, it’s not a deal-breaker obvs, but it’s quite funny how much special pleading goes on whenever it comes to PMDG. Surely a person can like a product overall, without feeling the need to defend everything about it

I'm definitely not a defender of PMDG, I do not worship at the altar of Randazzo 🤣 Just found it odd how some people effectively said it was the end of the world for seemingly such a minor thing (especially given there is an import routine, albeit not as seamless as some other stuff). It's a perfectly valid gripe, but some people come across very "woe is me" about it. Maybe I'm just old school, use to punching coordinates for each waypoint into a Delco Carousel INS C-IVA.

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8 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

I'm definitely not a defender of PMDG, I do not worship at the altar of Randazzo 🤣 Just found it odd how some people effectively said it was the end of the world for seemingly such a minor thing (especially given there is an import routine, albeit not as seamless as some other stuff). It's a perfectly valid gripe, but some people come across very "woe is me" about it. Maybe I'm just old school, use to punching coordinates for each waypoint into a Delco Carousel INS C-IVA.

 

People always have to have a whinge. Looks great to me, and fantastic to have the NG in MSFS. 

On the plus side nice to see Navigraph detect and install NavData automatically. Seems to have all the options from the old NGX that I was hoping for - show throttle settings & auto time compression.

 

Can wait for the tablet, tbh...

 

Now if work cooperates and I get a short shift tonight I might get the chance to test it properly!!

 

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Enter the two ICAO codes togeather in the flight plan page and the flight plan loads from simbrief download manager, you can also do a PERF request and you can also do a winds request.

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Just installed the 737 - Simbrief integration with the downloader took me 3 minutes and it works.

 

 

I just couldnt start the engines because I forgot about the Iso Valve after all these A32NX flights...............

9 hours ago, tfm said:

After months using the FBW A320neo I must admit I had assumed that the PMDG 737 would come with Simbrief integration. I realise that using the Simbrief download tool isn’t really much more hassle - but imo the extra step(s) do detract from the experience. It feels surprisingly unpolished / 2014-vintage in this quite important respect. Slightly spoilt my first impressions tbh. Hopefully PMDG can improve on this.

 

Otherwise, my experience seems similar to that of others. Looks good, “flies” as expected. 
 

Performance-wise I’d say it’s on a par with the FBW A320neo or perhaps marginally better.
 

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Simbrief is completely integrated?

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It’s a matter of taste I guess. I actually enjoy the flight planning aspect, and punching in the flight plan with the FMS reinforces my understanding of the flight plan, including the interaction of the SIDS, STARs, and en route waypoints, and why specific transitions are to be preferred. On the other hand, I have never understood the fascination many folks have with spending many minutes pretending to start their airliner from a cold and dark state. That’s my take, and those who prefer otherwise are certainly entitled and able to do what pleases them. That’s the beauty of the hobby!

4 hours ago, regis9 said:

Just curious if your SIDS had some with tight turns, complicated procedures etc?  I’m going to try more out but I’m interested to see what others are experiencing.  Mine was KSLC 30R SPTNS1.VLREE SID if anyone wants to give it a try and see how it works.

i was going to try this out but it seems that KSLC does not have a 30R or that SID haha. typo in the airport name?

ohh found it, KSJC  . i'll give it a try and let u know how it went

cheers

7 hours ago, regis9 said:

I flew a SID out of KSJC last night that includes a climbing 180 degree turn after takeoff and it over shot the turn and busted the 250kt speed limit.  That’s a sample size of  1 for me but I was surprised it happened.

 

4 hours ago, regis9 said:

Just curious if your SIDS had some with tight turns, complicated procedures etc?  I’m going to try more out but I’m interested to see what others are experiencing.  Mine was KSLC 30R SPTNS1.VLREE SID if anyone wants to give it a try and see how it works.

One thing to check. There is a bank angle selector knob on the back of the heading select knob. Kinda square shaped. 

From the old PMDG NG FCOM

Bank Angle Selector – Rotate

  • sets maximum bank angle for AFDS operation in HDG SEL or VOR modes
  • commanded bank angle can be selected at 10, 15, 20, 25, or 30 degrees.

Make sure you have it set to 30 degrees or the radius of the turn that the plane can make will be limited (as in too wide).

I remembered having this same issue in the NGXu a couple of years ago, so I posted a thread about it back then.

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9 hours ago, VBHB said:

The plane is as the same as the P3D version. Everyone's wetting themselves over it at the moment. I'm still waiting for the -800 which will be a more better product by then.

Were you expecting it to go supersonic or something? I mean, yeah it's the same plane. It's a 737. The P3d one was a very faithful representation of the type, so I don't understand why some people seem to think there should be major changes to the MSFS version. It's still a 737. 

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31 minutes ago, rlashier said:

It’s a matter of taste I guess. I actually enjoy the flight planning aspect, and punching in the flight plan with the FMS reinforces my understanding of the flight plan, including the interaction of the SIDS, STARs, and en route waypoints, and why specific transitions are to be preferred. On the other hand, I have never understood the fascination many folks have with spending many minutes pretending to start their airliner from a cold and dark state. That’s my take, and those who prefer otherwise are certainly entitled and able to do what pleases them. That’s the beauty of the hobby!

It's similar to the fascination some have in this day and age about bragging that they can use a manual transmission in a car.  there's lots of people who have never had to learn it, but at the end of the day it isn't that hard.

A bit like flexing about being able to tie your own shoelaces.

11 hours ago, Nyxx said:

Simple use simbrief for flight plans, you can also DL a copy for MSFS to use, that way it should work OK with msfs ATC but dont click on a park/gate on the map, use the drop down window.

How do you DL a copy for MSFS to use?

 

What file format is it in the list and will it have SIDS STARS that MSFS can also use or do you have to put those in manually?

 

 Thanks 

Chris Camp

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