5 hours ago, Maxis said:

day 1 buy .. without a doubt .. Not gonna hate on PMDG though .. as someone familiar with The "airbus way" of doing things i'm having a hard but very immersive time learning the competition. Not gonna hate on them at all. The more high fidelity AC available the more it lends credibility to the platform overall.

 

Well said. I just don't get this constant battle between the fan boys..

Wow, been following development from the start. I really believe this will set a new benchmark for flight sim developers. What they look to achieve is mind blowing and if they pull it off, it should really make other developers, like PMDG, stop and think about how they can come close to matching this level of immersion. I have bought all PMDG's products from FSX days, all FSLABS products and Leonardo and Majestic Dash 8, all have set the bar for flight sim. Most recently I got the PMDG B737 and for me the hassle of manually setting up flights with opening doors, loading the A/C, seeing PMDG liveries on ground service vehicles, just broke any immersion for me. Graphically it's beautiful but the magenta line drawing still wasn't fixed and my over all experience was disappointment. I can't wait for an MSFS product that has that immersion from the cockpit when sat at a gate, ala FSLABS. Will be a day one purchase for me. I see no issue with people comparing PMDG products with others, Rob on their forum is well known for waxing lyrical about his products, people (including me) have spent over $1000 on them so I see no issue with people critiquing PMDG. Whilst in the past they have been trail blazers, I think for a long time they have been overtaken, think FSLABS, Leonardo, Majestic, and never regained top place. But that's just my opinion.     

I'm happy that we have both.!

+ 1

No hate for PMDG please. Can we instead bash Leonardo for a little while? I am yet to get over my irritation with Leonardo and the top price-tag for my Maddog...  😁

Cheers,

2Low2Slow

 

When will this be available? I haven't found any mention of it.

6 hours ago, captain420 said:

This ^ x 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Tell that to PMDG.

I just read this https://fenixsim.com/blog/entries/2022-05-15_end_of_beta/

I know what I will be flying 90% of the time for the next year. 😛🙂

14 minutes ago, TooLowTooSlow said:

+ 1

No hate for PMDG please. Can we instead bash Leonardo for a little while? I am yet to get over my irritation with Leonardo and the top price-tag for my Maddog...  😁

Cheers,

2Low2Slow

 

The MD82 is a niche aircraft, and the more niche an aircraft is, the less "common" people will buy it anyway. That's not comparable to the 737 or A320, not at all. So a lower price might have gained Leonard less profit actually... but in the end we don't know their business calculations. I'm just saying the price is influenced by many factors.

Since most wont read it, here is a little bit.

So, not only are 181 livery packages including variations available at launch - but the art team pulled out a whopper and also took the time to hand reference each registration we’ve painted for a rough configuration using the best available data - matching their standby configuration at the very least. All of them. So now, the airframe you fly will be uniquely configured and changes from flight to flight, from airline to airline"

Lots of words that are not allowed ! That looks incredible, just from the standard of modelling, let alone the systems, functionality and everything else. However, the FBW A320 really is enough for this non-level studying simmer, and the Boeing 737-800 will be the other option, when it's released. Well done though, Fenix - if you can stretch to an A340-600, I'll be in the queue.

5 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Since most wont read it, here is a little bit.

So, not only are 181 livery packages including variations available at launch - but the art team pulled out a whopper and also took the time to hand reference each registration we’ve painted for a rough configuration using the best available data - matching their standby configuration at the very least. All of them. So now, the airframe you fly will be uniquely configured and changes from flight to flight, from airline to airline"

Yeah as if it wasn't enough to break the record for immersion and simulation, they now also break the record for included liveries... by far. Like 10x what the 737-700 shipped with.

56 minutes ago, TooLowTooSlow said:

+ 1

No hate for PMDG please. Can we instead bash Leonardo for a little while? I am yet to get over my irritation with Leonardo and the top price-tag for my Maddog...  😁

Cheers,

2Low2Slow

 

...and it worked out for them. You and a lot of others bought it 😄

PMDG haven been developing aircraft for atleast 25 years now. Innovation comes from the new, freedom to create and invent with only needing to satisfy yourself and your own expectations. That’s why innovation tends to come from the new young and exciting developers across any market platform. It’s a bit like comparing Bill Gates of now to Elon Musk. They’ve both been kings of what they do in different times but ultimately they have both been pivotal in some way.

58 minutes ago, TooLowTooSlow said:

+ 1

No hate for PMDG please. Can we instead bash Leonardo for a little while? I am yet to get over my irritation with Leonardo and the top price-tag for my Maddog...  😁

Cheers,

2Low2Slow

 

If people have complaints to make, the clunky setup of the Maddog between their limited EFB and the windows program needed to configure the aircraft, the poor textures and then the price, i would say it deserves criticism and these are the reasons I skipped out.  The PMDG 737 is incredible and I am very happy with the purchase.  I also like flying the bus and will for sure be getting the Phoenix as well.

2 hours ago, RALF9636 said:

This is looking fantastic. 

I hope there won't be disappointment when it comes to framerates and smoothness. 

I'm hoping my decision to upgrade to upgrade my 3800x to the 5800x3d pays off, so I'm quitly confident that I'll be ok FPS wise.