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MSFS GA versus Airliners in MSFS 2020.

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32 minutes ago, icewater5 said:

Can i ask why you prefer GA, just out of interest ?. I am getting this soon and always been an airliner type, but looking at the scenery thinking of GA as least for a good while ( before my airliner ocd starts up again ), lol 

Edit: on reflection i guess one answer is the scenery is just so good. I dunno, its a good thread question, that i was going to ask myself.

For me it is the difference between flying an aircraft (GA) and programming one to fly itself.  Airliner addons always remind me of a computer simulation of a computer.

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3 hours ago, icewater5 said:

Can i ask why you prefer GA, just out of interest ?

Airline captains fly GA aircraft on their days off.. for the sheer fun of it!  🙂

Bert

3 hours ago, TASCHMANN said:

For me it is the difference between flying an aircraft (GA) and programming one to fly itself.  Airliner addons always remind me of a computer simulation of a computer.

Is that not the same thing in a GA aircraft with a G1000nxi in it.?

1 hour ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Is that not the same thing in a GA aircraft with a G1000nxi in it.?

Yes sir! A GA aircraft all decked out with glass is pretty much hands off if equipped and setup properly. And some high performance pressurized aircraft can go to decent flight level. But there is something very special about landing a big bird at 140kts that can’t be matched with GA aircraft regardless of programming.

4 minutes ago, Doering said:

But there is something very special about landing a big bird at 140kts that can’t be matched with GA aircraft regardless of programming.

I'm a GA and bizjet guy honestly, however I have to agree 100% with you on this one!

We've gone from FSX and P3D, where the scenery only looked good from 30K, to flying at 30K in MSFS and wishing we were down low so that we could see all the gorgeous scenery. GA lets you enjoy the view that MSFS offers.

Surely not everybody was kung fu fighting.

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Hard to believe nobody has mentioned the Hjet (Hondajet) which embodies much of both high and fast jets and the privacy and intimacy of GA.  I have been out traveling (real world), for three weeks and had that extended by an out-of-town bout with Covid/Omicron v.5, so just tomorrow returning to the MSFS cockpit.  Needing a mix of performance and economy for various reasons, I am distilling my hours down to the following:

  • Default G1000 Cessna 172 enhanced with the NXi, for lo/slo sightseeing
  • Carenado C337, for lo/slo observation with ability to fast forward (ground speed) to the next lo/slo observation point.
  • The Robt Young Turbo Enhanced default Bonanza (RYTB). Good speed with single engine economy.  Something about Robert's brilliance continues after 10 years to captivate me!
  • The Milviz Cessna 310, much due to familiarization from the FSX/P3D versions
  • And undoubtedly the Hjet from Marwan, when covering distance fast and economically while staying close to others aboard is what it is all about! 

I recently rode coast-to-coast and back on SWA 737-700's, occupying Row 11R on all four flights (leg space and no recline of seats ahead) and enjoyed all four on-time flights (miracles).  I also enjoyed leaving those flights into KMDW, KSEA, KSTL, and KBWI to the great pilots of SWA!

I may retrace those (4) flights in the Hjet.  Just to bring on more smiles,,,,,,,

Edited by fppilot

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I bought the CRJ and the 900/1000 addon for it when they first came out and put a lot of time into learning the FMS but I rarely fly it. Basically because after you spend 10 minutes programming it and take off you just go on autopilot for 3 hours and go watch Netflix.

Aircraft I currently fly regularly are the Sting S4, Boeing 247D, Grumman Goose, AH c140, JF Warrior II, Quest Kodiak, Staggerwing. 

Edited by Glenn Fitzpatrick

This is a question I was asking myself a few days ago: Something changed in the way I used to fly virtually. Before (since FS95 to P3D) I would almost exclusively fly airliners and had all of them in my hangar!

Now with MSFS, it's almost exclusively GA (Trinidad TB21, Bonanza, TBM, Cessna 414, CJ4, Longitude), I did buy the CRJ 700 and the DC6, but both have been hangared for months now and the only airliner I do fly with pleasure from time to time is the FBW A320, occasionally the HD 787 and very seldom the Salty 748. I had no inclination to buy the Fenix A320 (all FSLabs birds in P3D), the Maddog (FSX and P3D) or the PMDG 737 (which I had in all its iterations since FS9 along with the 777 and 747).

I am now enjoying discovering (again) our planet the way it really is, sheer pleasure of getting back to small cockpits in which I spent countless hours during twenty years in this brave real world and revisiting sceneries I flew over ages ago (which -for some - I can't recognise since they changed so much!). Call it nostalgia, thanks to MSFS!

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Here is a good challenge with the Milviz C310.

Have a look at Saba airport in the Caribbean. TNCS. Smallest commercial airport in the world.

I'm bored of the Fenix at the moment the thing flies too perfectly so I've gone back doing GA C208 runs.  Game looks so pretty from 10,000ft.  I'll start doing RFDS flights once the SW PC12 comes out then go back to Airliners when I feel the need.

Edited by VBHB

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12 hours ago, icewater5 said:

Can i ask why you prefer GA, just out of interest ?. I am getting this soon and always been an airliner type, but looking at the scenery thinking of GA as least for a good while ( before my airliner ocd starts up again ), lol 

Edit: on reflection i guess one answer is the scenery is just so good. I dunno, its a good thread question, that i was going to ask myself.

Flying by hand at low altitude gives me more of a feeling of flying for real than programming avionics from A to B, and you do not need the latest supercomputer to fly GA in ultra settings either.

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Yeah same here... Fenix great... Pmdg ok... both too automated... 146 pure fun. Allthough I like the 310 and other "faster" GA the pure fun of sightseeing and enjoying the scenery from cockpit you can have only while slower and with a nice view from cockpit.

For me thats in a unmatched first place the FSReborns Sting S4 (with full wear and tear), followed by the //42 Fox (mostly the normal Kitfox with engine stage 1) and the MV Porter. All are around 120 knots and a joy to handfly and offer you a great view out of the front. I'm not on VR but paired with TrackIR its just a joy.

Cheers

T.

I fly either depending on what I feel like doing and how much time I have.

Whereas we had a bunch of great airliners release just as we get into summer here and my sim times greatly reduces for the next few months, I haven’t had time to fly any of the next aircraft releases (airliner or GA) enough to be bored of any yet.

Dave

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For me, flying airliners is limited to the start and landing, so basically to ca. five minutes. Other than that, Otto takes over and the airliner becomes a pure systems simulation (which I also liked a lot).

But now in VR in MSFS, handflying VFR in the Sting S4 or in the Milviz 310 (later in A2A Comanche) is so rewarding compared to the airliners. 

Flying airliners became like that:

 

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