30 minutes ago, cobalt said:

No hate here -- just asking for info on why I should upgrade from Win 10 to Win 11. So far, what I am hearing amounts to "because it is there". The advocates of Win 11 seem to be straining to rationalize it, but cannot offer any compelling reason. Thanks to numerous posts here and elsewhere, I see no overwhelming urgency to do it now. But I will wait and see.

When I built my PC around 8 weeks ago I decided to go with Windows 11, having a 12th gen i7 I had read that core usage is way better optimized for these newer processors under Windows 11. I haven't tried Windows 10 on this PC but I I have had absolutely zero issues with either MSFS or Windows since I built the system, totally rock solid and I have racked up quite a few hours in the sim. I only use this PC for MSFS so that may be a factor as I am not constantly installing then removing software. 

50 minutes ago, cobalt said:

No hate here -- just asking for info on why I should upgrade from Win 10 to Win 11. So far, what I am hearing amounts to "because it is there". The advocates of Win 11 seem to be straining to rationalize it, but cannot offer any compelling reason. Thanks to numerous posts here and elsewhere, I see no overwhelming urgency to do it now. But I will wait and see.

Win 10 support ends in Oct 2025.  That seems like a long way out (and there is plenty of time), but basically if you're building from scratch now, why not future proof your OS?  Again, obviously there's no reason to upgrade in place, but new hardware should really be 11 unless there's a compelling reason not to. 

I've been on Win11 a while, incl. 22H2. Don't really see any major advantages nor any major disadvantages vs. Win10. There's supposed to be a better thread director for those with 12th gen Intel CPUs, but apparently there's not much difference. 

2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I've been on Win11 a while, incl. 22H2. Don't really see any major advantages nor any major disadvantages vs. Win10. There's supposed to be a better thread director for those with 12th gen Intel CPUs, but apparently there's not much difference. 

And that just about sums it up.

Of course, W11 may yet see new improvements and features, but W10 is now a dead end and won't, so there is that as well.

On 10/10/2022 at 5:37 PM, cobalt said:

OK, I will ask one more time. Please tell me, in simple straightforward language, what is better in Windows 11 compared to Windows 10?

Specifics, please, not generalities. Many thanks.

To people that do not like change, Windows 10 is better. For everyone else, Windows 11 is better. Why? Because Windows 11 is newer, and therefore more in sync with the currently available technology. When you get right down to it, most of the real changes between the two are under the hood (in the kernel) and not in plain site of the user. Nobody on here can explain to you why it is preferential to use the latest generation of OS. I used DOS but Windows came out and it was better. Aside from Vista, each version of Windows was better and more capable than the previous one. 

I would flip the question on you and ask you to explain to us why you think it might be better to stay on a stale version of OS as opposed to going with the more modern one? Are there any new features in Windows 11 that would be detrimental to the use of your system?       

Edited October 12, 20223 yr by MDFlier

1 hour ago, MDFlier said:

To people that do not like change, Windows 10 is better. For everyone else, Windows 11 is better. Why? Because Windows 11 is newer, and therefore more in sync with the currently available technology. When you get right down to it, most of the real changes between the two are under the hood (in the kernel) and not in plain site of the user. Nobody on here can explain to you why it is preferential to use the latest generation of OS. I used DOS but Windows came out and it was better. Aside from Vista, each version of Windows was better and more capable than the previous one. 

I would flip the question on you and ask you to explain to us why you think it might be better to stay on a stale version of OS as opposed to going with the more modern one? Are there any new features in Windows 11 that would be detrimental to the use of your system?       

I don't believe I ever said anything of the kind -- you are putting words in my mouth. On the contrary, I have simply asked the same question over and over, namely: why should I upgrade now? While some Win 11 users seem to be oddly defensive about this, the preponderance of comment on this thread is that, for the moment at least, there are no compelling reasons to switch to Win 11. Let's leave it at that. I am sorry if this bothers you.

Got a new update last night.

Ruined sound in MFS when using the Fenix. Haven't been able to sort it 😕

Win 11 is the worst OS I ever used!

Uninstallingh it and going MacOS for good 🙂

Need your help guys ….,

Since the update the taskbar stays at the bottom of the screen which is behind the glare of my cockpit.

Before the update I used the Taskbar1.1 app to place it at the top where I can see it.

Eveh a Reg hack that I found ( 0.3 to 0.1 ) does not work.

https://pureinfotech.com/move-taskbar-top-side-windows-11/amp/

Who is the hero that knows how to put the taskbar back at the top of the screen ?

 

 

Edited October 12, 20223 yr by GSalden

18 hours ago, cobalt said:

I don't believe I ever said anything of the kind -- you are putting words in my mouth. On the contrary, I have simply asked the same question over and over, namely: why should I upgrade now? While some Win 11 users seem to be oddly defensive about this, the preponderance of comment on this thread is that, for the moment at least, there are no compelling reasons to switch to Win 11. Let's leave it at that. I am sorry if this bothers you.

It would seem that you misunderstood my response.

I addressed your question in a rational manner. The reason that no one has been able to give you a satisfactory answer is that the question itself is very subjective. What may be "compelling" to some may not be a factor at all to others. This simple fact is that both are good operating systems that are fully capable of performing the desired functions that an average user would demand of them.

I explained that  the core of the differences between the two are that Windows 11, being newer, has newer features and presumably, optimizations gleaned from past mistakes made in prior versions. "Lessons learned" as we say in the world of SW development. It's a real thing. "Should I upgrade now"? We really don't know. There are people on here getting ready to toss perfectly good 3090Tis in the bin so they can drop $2K on a 4090. Should they? I dunno. Newer, bigger, better, faster, more. Sounds good to me. It is truly a question that nobody besides you can answer. I would say that the fact that you need to ask is probably n indication that you don't really need to upgrade. When I upgrade, I know why I am doing it. If you don't know why you might want to, then I say don't waste your time. 

I did not put words in your mouth. I posed what is typically known as a rhetorical question. It was to illustrate that just as you would not easily be able to explain to us why we should not upgrade, we cannot explain to you why you should. My intent was not to trigger you. I do apologize for that.

Rhetorical question

noun

1. A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.
2. A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.
3. A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.

Edited October 12, 20223 yr by MDFlier

MDFlier, many thanks for your elaborate reply to my simple question -- I appreciate the time you have invested in this. From everything I have heard, it is clear that there is no need to install Windows 11 now, especially as there are bound to be improvements in the next 3 years (in addition, there are reports of problems some folks have had with MSFS after switching to the new Windows -- all the more reason to be cautious). I do think that new is not always better -- there are certainly of examples of software upgrades that were disasters, including at least one edition of Microsoft Flight Simulator a couple of decades ago. And of course there was the Edsel ....

Does one have to still go to the experimental channel to get the GeForce update or is it now fixed?

For me, FS and VR isn't working. It's working fine with my monitor, but freezes with VR. It already starts at the title screen where I get 1fps or so.

I tried all the different drivers, experimental this and that, and nothing fixed it.

Before the Win11 update it was working fine. Very sad.

Hallelulia, better late than never, it was time already.

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2022/10/19/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-25227/

Quote

Made a change to address an issue which could lead to performance degradation when using performance monitoring tools which leveraged the Microsoft-Windows-DxgKrnl ETW provider. This also impacted performance for Windows Mixed Reality. As a reminder, if you’re experiencing performance issues, please see here for steps on filing actionable performance feedback.

 

Just updated this and the newest Nvidia drivers. During preflight I got the "Your graphics driver blah blah blah MSFS needs to close."

A hundred flights with this sim and no graphics issues until I just updated an hour ago. I need to get an Xbox I'm so tired of chasing stability.

On 10/12/2022 at 7:04 PM, GSalden said:

Need your help guys ….,

Since the update the taskbar stays at the bottom of the screen which is behind the glare of my cockpit.

Before the update I used the Taskbar1.1 app to place it at the top where I can see it.

Eveh a Reg hack that I found ( 0.3 to 0.1 ) does not work.

https://pureinfotech.com/move-taskbar-top-side-windows-11/amp/

Who is the hero that knows how to put the taskbar back at the top of the screen ?

 

 

cant  you high light  the  task  bar  and move  it  where  you want  eg left  right or  top  it  does  for  me  although using  win  10 ok looks like  you cant  do it  this  way in win 11

Edited October 21, 20223 yr by pete_auau